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I agree with all you say but you omit the act that the first two goals which caused most of the damage were not caused by us being caught with too many players upfield. They were the result of Leicester being fully aware that we'd try to play out from the back whatever the circumstances. We played right into their hands by twice giving away the ball in our half and Leicester cashed in and raced into a two goal lead.

Whichever way you cut it that first goal was a total clusterfuck. We kicked off and 25 seconds later the ball was in our net! I couldn't believe what I was watching - we took the kick off passed the ball back until Baz had it, he played a pass that left Charles under pressure but, knowing he wasn't allowed to send it long he tried a pass that wasn't remotely on. Leicester knew we'd do it, they had the ball and in the next breath it was nestling in the back of our net. That should not happen at any level of football. RM should be embarrassed.

The inverted position KWP goes into is because RM thinks he can emulate what Pep does. He can't and our players are not good enough to play that way. For pity's sake can we go back to basics, cut the inverted full backs nonsense and stop this obsession with playing out from the back, Set up in a good shape, play out when it's possible but if not the players must be told it is ok to hit the flanks or channels. We are not and never will be Man City. We have good players being played in totally the wrong way and this will only get worse as confidence drains and other teams press us hard high up the pitch. It is nonsense.

Agree. I heard him say he was proud of the players. If he's saying that after a 4-1 home defeat that could have been worse and which followed a 5-0 thrashing that could also have been worse then he's sending out completely the wrong message. We need some honesty and home truths not some sort of propaganda statement.

The problem with RM insisting on this playing out from the back is that opponents are very aware of this. From the first minute today Leicester pressed us hard and their reward was two early goals as we played right into their hands - other teams will do the same. This will erode any confidence of the players and lead to even more mistakes. There is no way you can learn this system on the job because of all the goals you'll give away - it is self perpetuating. RM must abandon it because if he doesn't he's going to be sacked before too long.

We made it very easy for him to be fair.

RM sugar-coating it on Sky. He needs to stop kidding himself and get his head out of the sand.

Exactly. RM seems to insist that we play like Man City. It's never going to happen. Get the basics right and stop trying to be so frigging clever.

Did you miss us trying to play out from the back and giving them a 2 goal lead?

I buckled up and it didn't turn out well tonight. Decent bloke but not sure he's going to cut the mustard.

Embarrassing from 25 seconds onwards.

You couldn't make this up. Red for Sully.

Should have been 6 or 7.

This is it. We are a team of mainly weaklings. Where are our power houses?

Where do we go from here? Anyone got any ideas? It's frighteningly bad.

Don't be silly, they are away from home and have been all over us.

They can't sack him. They'd be paying 3 ex managers and looking for a new one.

Another goal from our corner. When will Martin learn he can't leave us so exposed. Ok Sully gave it away but that's poor tactics by the manager.

Two players just let Vardie run free.

We don't have a possession game. Our passing is awful.

We couldn't have had 5. Don't be ridiculous.

I don't give a shit anymore. We are so bad it's not worth bothering to get angry. RM has much to learn. We have no shape and just look a shambles.

We look horribly wide open and so easy to play through.

Could be about 2-5.

Baz has made some good stops today.