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It's to do with debt as well which, with ours turned into equity, means we are in a very strong position.

I'd settle for a well run club, bringing through their own players that actually takes cup competions seriously.

Whilst I'd love to see Saints reach the giddy heights of CL football I have to conclude that anyone who actually sees us doing it in the short term is clearly 'kin nuts.

This season = Big Eck = Sh.it manager.

CL = Not a hope in hell. Anything else = Why not.

I'm most likely in a minority of 1 but I'd take a Wembley win and relegation next season.

People hardly flocked to SMS this season did they when we were having the best season for years.

And then people mither about all the empty seats when we go back down. Also, considering how much whinging you did this year about the booking fee I'm not sure you're in any position to comment on sentiment in business.

So what is a good deal then? As I said £499 +1 or even £599 +1 (U11s) limited to one of the corners sees is a 33% / 61% rise. £499 + £150 or £599 + £150 = 71% / 97% rise.

A drop of what? 10k? I can't imagine many families priced out of the EPL will flock back to the NPC.

Who the fu.ck is saying that? What I'm clearly saying is that increases should be carefully managed to not to exclude plenty of the families who have stuck by the club during the L1 years as well as this.

Difference being though is when you need those customers back they tell you to fu.ck off.

IIRC they need to be registered by end of May(ish).

If there are no deals then we won't be will we and that's my worry. Plenty of young kids around me with their dads & mums and I'd hate to see them priced out. As I said, I'm in the position I can afford them but I know that there are some of those around me that aren't but were there week in week out in L1.

If you think he's good enough for the EPL then good for you. To me, he's average at best and isn't good enough to get beyond that. As I said, he's young and English and if he'd been any good a lower end EPL club would have taken a punt. They haven't because he's not.

That's the same as saying "well kids, thanks for coming when we were sh.it are needed your support but now we are in the big league you can all fu.ck off as some other mug will pay big bucks to watch Utd for a season, but if we go down will do you a deal again."

I'll miss excellent numbers at away games north of London.

This is why I think they'll move the family centre and limit the numbers. They have to be careful. My (family centre) season ticket was £380 + my nippers at £0. Say they up mine to £499 and the nippers for £150 that's an extra £270 or a 70+% rise. If they say £600 for the ends and £150 for the nipper that's near enough 100%. I reckon it may be a case that if you want "your" seat and it's no longer in the family centre you pay the going rate and if you move you get the discounted one. Either way I'm lucky enough to be able to afford one (with a decent DD scheme) but if the rise is too steep then it will be the midland/northern games only for us.

They have to be careful with the kids tickets or they'll lose plenty of younger fans as dads, such as me, can't absorb say and extra £150 for us and then another £150 for the kids. Those I sit with are in the same position. I think they'll move the family centre, give a decent deal but limit numbers.

I believe you may be correct.

Why not? No one has a fu.cking clue and is merely speculating.

£799 centres, £699 wings, £599 ends & £499 inc 1 x U11 (limited numbers) family centre.

They ain't nippers though.

Antonio is no more that an upper L1 / lower NPC. If he were any good & above that level then one of the lower level EPL teams would have taken a punt.

He's had so many clubs for a reason.