hypochondriac

It isn't purely about school, it's about psychological upbringing of the child, their sense of identity and the qualities and advice (as well as motherly instincts) that only a mother can provide.

Can you not see how hypocritical it is to dismiss this 'rumour' yet make up another rumour that Lawrie is behind this article and totally believe it?

I like to think I have some knowledge in the area, considering my profession and also considering that I have an adopted sister.

Wow did you even bother to read what I was replying to? Franks Cousin was saying that the study he linked to was not scientific enough to be considered valid.

Yes but I was talking about parents of comparable quality which is what I tried to convey in my answers.

Psychological well-being of the child is also another factor

That's really how I stand on the issue as well. TBH I think if you are a same sex couple and you deprive a loving male female couple of a child by adopting one then you are pretty selfish.

That has nothing to do with people dismissing this as b*llocks yet denouncing Lawrie in the same breath.

Would love to mate but I bought the iphone from a shop and I have no idea who the guy is!

It is amusing that some have dismissed this totally as b*llocks yet in the same breath denounce Lawrie for starting the rumour!

Erm well yes because there are more considerations than just a 'child being loved.' That is a part (a very important part.) but there are other factors to take into consideration. I'm not saying same sex couples should not adopt, just that loving male and female couples should be given preference over loving same sex couples.

What if the alternative was not a traditional male female relationship but a home or being passed from foster parent to foster parent? (Not having a pop Turkish because I largely agree with you, just interested in your thoughts.)

Not surprising.

I think this is an interesting topic. Clearly in an ideal world where families consisted of a male and a female then the ideal is to keep children within that traditional setting. Obviously the world doesn't work like that and I see no reason why a gay couple cannot foster or adopt a child if the alternative for that child is worse than being adopted by a same sex couple (which may lead to some confusion or identity issues on the part of the child). However, in this case that is not the consideration. For a start, this just seems like some sort of publicity stunt or a new toy for Elton. Elton John is an extremely hateful individual, from being rude petulant and throwing childlike tantrums at photographers to his past drug abuse and feeling it appropriate to joke about his anal dildo in an interview from a couple of months ago he is clearly not a good role model for a child to have. On top of that, he is also an old man and it is unkind on a child to be raised by someone who may need someone to look after himself soon. I feel strongly that parents should be discouraged from having children later in life purely because it deprives the child of so much. So in summary, gay and lesbian couples should be able to adopt children IF they are the best option available (with a loving male female partnership being the ideal) but Elton John is too old and a terrible role model to adopt a child. If it was anyone else they would have been refused but because it is Elton it is allowed and that is wrong.

Coogan is a legend and totally correct with his comments. Anyone who created Partridge has my utter respect anyway.

Should have been subbed last night for Nguessun.

We hope.

I'm sure the daily mail invented the story as part of a deliberate destabilising campaign.

I said COULD be a good thing. Can you read? If the Liebherr familie's heart is no longer in it then ultimately it is the right thing to sell it on.

Told you.

Could be a good thing. Seems to confirm there is some substance in the rumours that have been around since the summer. No doubt because it isn't what some want to hear it will be dismissed as b*llocks by most.

It wasn't the odd nutter it was a significant amount on here. You are trying to rewrite history now.some of the people who were praising those silly decisions are the ones now calling ni a tw*t and that this silly decision by the club not to give an explanation should be applauded.

Why does that matter? I A good speech is a good speech and I think it shows an interesting way forward.

I would argue that the extremism which causes people to blow themselves up is the most concerning form. It was an encouraging speech and nice to know the country can question these things without being accused of racism.