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I find it odd that not a single person on here who were calling Millwall fans thick and racist have tried to explain why there was no booing at the anti racist activities yesterday but there was at the taking of the knee. It's been completely ignored.

"the black one" could be seen as derogatory in certain contexts.

I disagree with most of what you've said here but i appreciate the civility you have used to express yourself and the general tone of your post. I won't respond in detail as you've said you don't want to have arguments.

1000 times this. In hindsight the bloke could have said something else but with a tiny bit of common sense it's clear that no offence was intended and as you say making a song and dance out of something like this does more harm than good.

Wow. White privilege in action folks.

And if that is the case that he accused him of racism because he was mad about the red card, then it proves the lunacy of allowing racism to solely be identified by any black person and unable to be challenged by anyone else.

Why are you attempting to silence the voice of Micah Richards- a proud person of colour? Seems you'd rather prioritise your own white voice and tell Micah how he should think. That seems a bit racist to me...

Micah Richards said it wasn't racist. Why is Sydney Saint allowing white pundits in the media to determine what is and isn't racist and silencing a black voice?

You mentioned that he could have mentioned his proximity to someone else (not particularly practical) called him by his name- that he may not have known- or used his number (that he didn't have). Without mentioning a physical characteristic it would have taken a lot longer for him to be identified.

I think he's a bit embarrassed that he got it wrong and would prefer to lash out rather than just hold his hands up and admit he hadn't read past the headline...

So you realised your error yes?

I find it interesting that it always seems to be the people on one side of this debate who want to leap to calling the other side thick. Like someone else mentioned, it's very similar to the brexit debate. Him not agreeing with you or giving an honest opinion doesn't mean he's taking the piss or that he's an idiot.

And in the moment if he didn't know or didn't remember the name or number of the individual? Pretty sure it was a coach anyway so don't think he'd have a number. If it was me I'd probably say something like "the darker skinned man" but then I'm not Romanian so maybe it's a language thing but as you said context is important and he clearly wasn't intending any sort of offence. Surely you use common sense in this situation.

Well if that is seriously what's being pushed then I can absolutely see why people don't take claims of racism seriously. All that does is allow any minority with a suitably malevolent intent to misuse that power - or privilege if you will- to cause all, kinds of damage as well as undermining true racist acts

And the 4th official saying black wasn't using it as an identifying characteristic?

I'm not talking specifically about this case because I don't know all, the facts, but are you seriously suggesting that anything perceived by someone to be racist is a racist act and that if its a black person alleging the racism that no one who isn't darker skinned is allowed to question the narrative? You can see why that's a problem surely? I mean we already have that at the moment with non hate crime incidents being logged all over the place when it's enough that someone feels something has been motivated by prejudice for it to become so.

What if you have two black people with opposing opinions? Which one should you listen to? You realise that it's pretty patronising and demeaning to a group of individuals to arbitrarily group them into a category called "Black people" based on their skin colour and then assign a bunch of opinions to them? Someone like candace owens seems to have a few unusual opinions but she's black should I listen to her? Or is it just the black people who agree with Black Lives Matter, critical race theory and all white people being cursed with the original sin of whiteness?

No it is a number of players who think it is bollocks not all of them. Clearly there's some militant ones or people who don't know any better. What do you reckon then? There's unanimous support?

How do you explain such a 180 degree change from the last game? The only thing that's changed is the emphasis is no longer on black lives matter and is on kick it out instead. What do you reckon? Did the racists have a change of heart.

Weird. They replaced the black lives matter guff with kick it out and there wasn't any booing. It's almost as if the Millwall fans weren't racists after all and were objecting to what they saw as support for black lives matter defacing statues of Churchill and attempting to set fire to the union jack. Curious.

I presume that all those racists at Millwall will be booing the kick it out stuff tonight. If not, why not?

Probably my favourite win of the season so far considering the performance. Much better second half.

It's just a load of racist football fans isn't it. Bit weird though that they weren't booing their black players or any kick it out initiatives isn't it? You'd think they'd be all up for booing that considering how racist they all are.

I'd have to go looking for it and I really can't be bothered. Think it was a yougov one. I don't watch terrestrial telly so things like that don't bother me, but it is amusing how in virtually every advert the family is mixed race. That's more about some advertising execs wanting to offend the least amount of people though rather than some anti white thing.

The sensible thing for the prem to do was to release some new non political initiative at the end of last season and stop all the kneeling. I reckon they are scared of being called racist by certain activists so don't want to tell people to stop. As you point out it will get to a point where they won't be able to stop it.