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What about one that called for far left antifa violence?

What if someone wanted to bake a cake that called for a change in the law to allow adults to sleep with children? Do you think they should just respect the fact that people have different views and bake the cake then? Of course homosexuality and paedophilia are not the same thing but the point being made is the same.

We will have to fundamentally disagree with this one then. I don't believe anyone should be forced to support a cause they disagree with and thankfully the high court recognised this as well. Not baking the cake isn't denying someone the right to think differently. The rights and wrongs of Christianity and religion in general are an irrelevance to the case.

How have they alienated anyone? The bakers have served the customers before this cake and said they were happy to serve them again in the future for other cakes. Presumably you would feel the same way about someone baking a cake supporting sharia law in the UK? Or forcing someone to say they support the death penalty if they oppose it? The potential homophobic views of a Christian couple are irrelevant to the case and as stated earlier, it appears that even renowned gay rights activist Peter tatchell supports this decision because it isn't about gay people.

Yep and he's a buffoon as I've already said. Both sides screaming at each other is idiocy which is basically what is happening.

Because the point of equality law is to protect people from discrimination, not to force individuals to promote ideas they disagree with. That was the point of the case and it should be celebrated regardless of if you support the message on the cake or not. I'm glad common sense has prevailed over regressive views like yours.

That's good to know. It seems like quite a few people are supporting this from a number of different political positions which is really encouraging and surprising.

Not sure. I think it was by chance after a few days the owners contacted them to say they wouldn't be baking it.

What we need is the revival or SISA and Richard chorley. No doubt about it.

Yep. The people buying the cake wasn't the issue, it was the content on the cake they had a problem with.

Not allowed to hold that opinion mate. He's clearly the worst person who has ever walked the Earth and America will surely be in flames by the end of his presidency.

So you can't envisage any scenario where a woman would be happy for someone to engage in sexual acts like the ones described? He may well have been guilty of sexual assault, my only contention was that that bragging statement alone isn't proof of that. The fact you're trying to equate that statement with someone who has clearly raped and assaulted scores of women tells its own story. Tell me again how a bragging statement spoken in private about women letting you touch them sexually is comparable to a flimsy defence formulated after dozens of female victims have come forward speaking of horrifying stories of rape. But as you say its basically identical.

Soggy was absolutely desperate for me to comment on that alt right thread he created. He's clearly crushed that I saw through him and didn't bother.

I'm not liable to collapse into hysterics about him if that's what you mean. It's quite normal for the usual posters to write things like "speaks volumes" because I don't think Trump is literally Hitler. He's not someone I'd ever want to meet and he's an arrogant a*sehole with terrible rhetoric but he's not lucifer in human form as some like to make out. As I already said, he will likely be hugely weakened after the mid terms and will most likely lose after one term anyway.

Lol and you accuse others of false equivalences. A bragging quote from a bit of an idiot about women letting you grab them by the pussy and a serial rapist. Absolutely identical.

I've got no idea nor would I have any interest in knowing. He's an odd bloke though there's no doubt about that.

I didn't say anythibg about trump not doing anything wrong though did I.

As I said, there's no way of knowing with that quote if that action is consensual or otherwise. Trump is a bit of a bragging douche quite frankly but if he had said somethibg like "they protest and I do it anyway" then fair enough. People read into it to suit their political agenda but the truth is there no way or knowing.

You've just added the bit in about freezing and "letting you do it." you have absolutely no idea how it was meant. I don't think there was a suggestion by trump there that he forced himself on anyone.

The obvious point being that if a candidate like Trump can beat Hilary then what does that say about the esteem she was held in? She lost because she is uniquely awful. It's astounding that a party of millions could not find a single candidate more qualified and popular to take on Trump.

So Ocasio-cortez isn't the current flavour of the month candidate in the Democrat party? Also pathetic bringing race into any argument. You have no idea of the race or social class of anyone on here unless they tell you.

And it just keeps coming! Looks like the left aren't too hot on that self reflection thing. And then you wonder why everything is so polarised with idiotic statements like this.

Worth remembering when we talk about the pussy thing that he actually says that women let you grab them by the pussy. I've just seen it misquoted as sexual assault so many times it's worth clarifying.

And here's a tweet today highlighting pew research that underlines this point. So actually the research shows that it is the Democrats that have become more extreme over time and not the Republicans.

Which I already knew which is why I didn't say millions more Americans did I.