hypochondriac

Eh? What has that got to do with anything?

No, just think it's bizarre you think we will be pricing Morgan at 30 million.

Certainly doesn't seem overly likely.

It's worth bringing it up now and again to remind people who may not have been around at the time. It allows people to put your others views in context.

Meanwhile, in the land that isn't Wes' fantasy, if he leaves he will go for about 20 million.

Depends if we are actually struggling to stump up the cash or if that was just our opening offer in the negotiations. I hope it's the latter.

Yeah could be. Would be interesting to know why he felt the need to do that. I hope we keep our fitness levels from last season, using the ball straight away suggests our training could be less intense.

Thanks for the info. Why do you think he was doing that? Was Koeman not working them hard enough?

What about 9 now or 8.75 on the 31st of August?

So what you are saying is that if he was in my club team my judgement would be impaired as I would be biased towards him. In that case then yes that would probably be the case. He isn't a saint though so I can assess him bases on the results I care about (England.) he has been poor for England and I would prefer we performed as a team like Germany rather than a collection of individuals. Gerrard has often shown he is not a team player so I think he will be easily replaced but England will still be rubbish so it doesn't really matter.

Number ten is definitely one for us.

Agree again and I think that's a realistic reaction. We won't recover from the loss of Morgan and lovren this season.

I'm fed up of talking about potential signings now. Much more fun to talk about actual signings

I disagree. I think he would have been poor wherever he played and shouldn't have played. I may be would have had him in the squad at a push.

Wtf has SFC got to do with England? Why do you keep bringing it up? Gerrard isn't anything to do with SFC and how he does for his club is irrelevant. I would have said this a year or two ago, absolutely nothing at all to do with them amassing saints players. I'm sure not everyone within football respect him but of course when a player bigged up in the media retires they will get quotes to support their viewpoint. Many England fans have said words to the effect of good riddance and I agree with them.

Well supposedly respected Gerrard has presided over dismal failure so I reckon pretty much anyone would be fine as captain (not rooney).

I would have played the likes of huddlestone over Gerrard in DM at the world cup. Even cork would have been better.

Disagree. I think in almost every England game and tournament Ashley was good or decent. Unlike almost all the others in the team who were underwhelming. Gerrard had very few decent games for england from what I remember.

Agree. As well as being a good signing, we need it for pr reasons as well.

Loads of them contributed very little and been able to amass loads of caps based on their reputation and not much else. It's a big part of the problem and one reason we have been so poor.

So he did 'perform' then?

Exactly. You summed it up well.

Since euro 2004.

Yep. We need to start showing some balls and not be held to ransom.

Bit worried about the fact we are offering low fees along with the quote from Koeman about vlaar being expensive. Hopefully we will up our bid and offer something sensible.