NickG

v good post

agree. Next few games will give us v good indication - is this form continuing or even improving? Hopefully it won't take many games to stop any silly talk about just avoiding relegation etc

Keane joined in August after them losing 4 straight games - they were relegatino zone but were top half by Christmas

On 21 December 2003, Dowie was appointed manager of Crystal Palace, inheriting a squad with low morale and occupying 19th place in Division One. However, under his leadership, the club went on an impressive run that included 17 wins from 23 games after he took over, until the end of the season, enabling the club to finish in sixth place in Division One, just scraping into the Division One play-off places

just surviving would be embarrassing

rings a bell, think you maybe right

what this poster is aware of, but appears to ignore is that was for a totally different team and set up first game of the season we didn't have; Jaidi or Trotman - two very key defenders and first choices (both also have scored) Hammond - the gritty, CM player /leader we have been lacking for years - a captain by all accounts Lambert -the best CF, bar none, in the division - scoring regularly and great holding forward Papa -added pace, attacking flair - and 4 goals in 3 games Dean Wilkins/ Wally Downes http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/Manag...790796,00.html http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/Manag...753031,00.html

trouble is the next group - MK, Bristol, Norwich, Oldham, Millwall are all in form as well

so we will either fail by a distance or walk it!

after the luxury of winning last night was trying to decide who I wanted to drop points today - thought teams around 5-10th are key ones

WBA away came on on 75 mins and scored. Sheff U home came on 74 mins

true

think it was two sub appearances - not sure

first half might be worth watching as it was so bizarre!

makes it look too easy! never works out like that

think he did about 15 mins in total under NP (maybe a few mins out as it was a while ago just in case anyone was in a pedantic mood tonight)

true - also we are likely to have better goal difference, had more of a negative impact on other teams goal difference - and would be going into play offs as a team performing at the level of automatic promotion candidates!

bump to keep it above the other one! and goodnight

home wins and away draws! Any away win buys a bit of comfort! (but any home defeat, chances will be one or two, will be hard to catch up)

My prediction still is for around 8-12th But if you took the figures above and asked me Do you think we have peaked over last 6 games or will we continue to improve - think I would say improve - which puts dreams of play offs in back of my mind. I think the odd blip will probably be enough to make us fall short tho.

leave you to enjoy your debate here. Please leave other one, for the spirit it was intended. http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=17181

For those who want a rough idea of what maybe required thought this might help. It is not intended to be exact, as each season will clearly be different. I have looked at the final league table over last few years - looked at the team in 6th, and looked at what would have been the lowest points they could have had to secure that 6th place. The most common points to reach the play offs, is a total of 69. (Although last year S****horpe would have needed 74) Leaving us 64 (to 69) more points to get We have 34 games left, and so we need about 1.8 (to 2) points per game. No room for bad runs at all. Interestingly tho - our current form, over last 6 games is almost exactly the form we need to achieve that target. (I have only used last 6 games as it is easy current form table on internet) Simply, if we carry on as we have the last 6 games - consistently (- or even improve!), for the rest of the season we should be in the play offs. I will leave you to your opinions on whether we will improve/get worse/or match the last 6 games!

thank f for that! somone with some sense!

IF S****horpe had 2 less point i.e. 74 (GD+14) they would have still made the play offs! You are the one being thick as I totally get your point but you seem unable to see that the above is 100% true!

can't believe I am letting you annoy me!