CanadaSaint

I am entering this discussion simply to say it may well be the (inadvertently) funniest thread I've ever read on here. It has everything - golf, politics, religion, social housing, dress sense, homophobia, and even a whiff of pedophilia (not sure how that got in there). It was good before Kadeem reached the inexplicable decision to confess guilt, but even better after.

I may well regret asking this , but why do you refer to her as "equestrian"?

It's a bigger handicap down here because it's the best stadium most of our opponents have played in, and I'm sure they lift their game as a result.

While I think these are early days and that things will turn out okay, here's the magnitude of the challenge: It took 49 points to stay up in this division last year, so we still need at least 57 points from the remaining 42 games - an average of 1.36 points per game. It took 76 points to make the play-offs - 84 more than we have, so we'd need at least 2.00 ppg to get there. We don't have long to get our sh*t together.

Thanks for your perspectives nickh and Marco. I suspect we're going to be like the stock market - a U-shaped bottom rather than a V-shaped bottom! As you said, Marco, "that does not change over night".

Thanks, Dave. That's good enough for me - but disappointing to read. For the life of me I don't understand why these managers don't see the value and importance of width. Even going back to Strachan we were far too quick to sacrifice our width. Every time we played Fabrice Fernandes on the right and watched him cut inside and get lost I wanted to punch myself in the nuts. Any good signs? Have we made good signings? Is this going to come good in the end?

I think I'll take the word of someone who was there rather than the knee-jerk reactions of people who weren't. This was always going to take time.

I thought they'd closed all the schools where that stuff went on.

Ouch! But then we're hockey country!

Wouldn't it be ironic if Jaidi failed the medical because he had something wrong with his colon. Sorry. I've just slapped myself.

Im imprest. It looks like it's crumbling badly so 300 for 4 would have been a great springboard for an innings sh*t-kicking of the Aussies. Now I'm not so sure, but at least we picked an established spinner. (BTW I can't talk like that with Canadians - they've embraced "soccer" but cricket is out of the question! ) Thank you, Mr. Wightman. Apologies for my part in taking things off track! I don't know what came over me. Probably watching the cricket is what did it.

LOL What the hell was this thread about in the first place? God, we're like a fart in a thunderstorm.

It is these days - because it's such a contributor to golf course viability in a country where golf is only a 5-6 month season. But I'm not complaining - a set of golf clubs and an adequate supply of beverages gets heavier as you grow older. I've actually been watching England working diligently to self-destruct in the Test Match. Some things don't change, eh?

I'm not going to argue with that. Some of the best input I've seen on here has been grammatically inept, and some of the most stupid comments have been grammatically perfect. Wow, thanks! That's like a porn site for members of the grammar police.

It actually is a little too hot for golf - 32 degrees. A definite swing & swig day. So I'm contenting myself making infantile contributions to a somewhat infantile grammar debate! I'd be better off golfing.

Don't get us started!

No, that's my correct name, as shown on my birth certificate. I think "youe" are taking this a little too seriously, which places "youe" in grave danger of being a "T-wat". And here's a spare close-bracket - " - to make up for the one missing from your post. You're more than welcome.

And while you're out getting the apostrophe for the "its", see if you can get a two-for-one deal because you need one for your screen name as well.

As a partner for the famous FFS, I suggest WGAF?

I'm pretty sure that people who can't spell think that people who can spell can't spell. If you know what I mean.

NC, I suspect that MLT would love to have his time over again on this one but, of course, he can't. I don't know if the real story will ever emerge, but I do know this: People all over the world (including here in Canada) know exactly who MLT is and who he played for, and hold him in very high regard for his sublime football skills. His accomplishments reside in archives that will long outlast him and us. As Saints fans we can't cite too many of our players who have even come close to that kind of status. Nobody, apart from most Saints fans, know who the hell Pinnacle are/were, never mind Lynham and Fialka. In years to come, even Saints fans won't know who the hell they were. Regardless of when MLT knew about the funding problem and whether he ever chooses to speak up, I will never, ever allow his naive missteps with a bunch of opportunists in 2009 to tarnish some ten years of brilliant images in my eyes. True - I mean iconic - heroes don't come along too often for Saints fans, so we should be really careful about allowing (what time will judge to be) the relatively trivial to dim the truly iconic. Pinnacle, Lynham, Fialka et al. Screw the lot of them.

I hear you, Duncan, but nothing for me will ever diminish what he's given to this Club. The real sadness of the Pinnacle phase was their shameless use of a man who didn't deserve to be used. I'm damned if I'll let that lot dent my feelings for MLT. They've already done enough damage without hurting my regard for an icon. I don't blame him for being used and I don't blame him for not saying what he'd probably like to say right now. He will say it, though, in time. Only then will the real story start to emerge, if it ever does.

Thanks, Duncan and DP. This is what I'm talking about when I say I don't think the full story will ever be told. That kind of threat and intimidation takes a toll but it's really, really saddening if MLT was sucked into it. On the one hand there's the argument that there's nothing to gain by dredging this stuff up, so let's turn the page and move on. On the other hand it's hard to see how we can ever "start to heal", in DP's words, if this sickening (and apparently longstanding - WGS at Newcastle FFS) saga isn't fully brought into the open. But Duncan would have to have ginormous testicles to start putting pen to paper on this one.

This thread is pure comedy - and getting better by the minute.

It's not just that we lack offensive penetration if we play inside too much. It's also that we make ourselves vulnerable to width because the counter-attacking opponents encounter no real challenge until they hit our back four. Width is both a good strategy for offence and a good strategy for defence. Why in the name of God has this not been apparent to any of our last eight-or-so managers? I fricking despair over this one.