St_Tel49

I am not blaming West Ham but they must be laughing their little socks off!

I've heard of Ricketts but who is Consumption?

And I rest my case for starting the thread.

Turkish-taking-contrary-view-as-a-matter-of-course shocker

No - you certainly can't blame them for it - we would bite their hands of for it as would almost any club - but there is no reason why they should be allowed to have it at such a cheap rent - and believe me - in comparison with them developing their own ground it is cheap - whether or not they own it.

Yep - they've screwed everyone

I'm speechless

This sums up what I think

But surely that is where "world class"ness is determined. He's a good player - a very good player. It's the "world class" bit I am contesting. Some have said he was in the the top three midfielders in the world at his best. I know that these things are a matter of opinion - but really?

He is being dropped because he upset the "real" pundits - so he must have been doing something right

He's certainly been closest to it which goes to show why Shaw is in such demand

I don't think that any English player of the last 10 years could truly be described as world class - even at their best. They consistently demonstrated that at all international competitions. Who would truly have made a world 11 - including bench? I am afraid that in England there is a tendency to outrageously overrate the better English players. Roooney's good - but world class - I don't think so.

WHy? Because he played for the Skates?

You are entitled to your viewpoint of course but that fact that he was near enough first name of on the team sheet for almost every manager for the past 4 years suggests that there was rather more to his contribution in leagues 1 and Championship than you are allowing him.

And of course it had absolutely nothing to do with us not letting them turn up. We are a really jammy team just like we were against Man City.

They probably did but just got crowded out of it.

Yes we have but there has been a collective failure to turn chances into goals.

He's the voice of reason don't you know!

I would not want to sell Lambert but if it happened then I agree with your comments about Carroll. He is vastly overpriced and it would need some hard negotiation.

I love the way people on here always seem to want to sell our best players for a pittance. As I've said before, I am glad that no-one on here handles our transfer negotiations. Lambert is worth more to us than 6m.

Agreed - I saw no lack of effort but I did see a serious lack of ideas. Lambert was being given nothing by that new centre back of theirs and it was only when Rodrigues came on to distract him that Rickie started to get the room to play. Apart from that he was given little service by the rest of the team.

What is the evidence that they wouldn't have? And was it not Nige who rehabilitated Punch?

OK if you are Riverdancing but a bit difficult if you are running.

Oddly enough those are precisely the words that sprang to my mind when I read your original post.