SaintRobbie

Wotte didnt have a youth policy - that was changed when he took over as it was a farce. Youth Policy was a sham because we were still paying the wages for decent experienced (in some cases Internationals) who were made to stay at the training ground and never even made the bench under JP's restrictions. Sorry SOG but financial situation does not explain this daft youth policy I'm afraid... not when we paid the experience and best players wages anyway!

I dunno about that... but would put him in charge for the last 2 games of this season to see what happened and allow us play and support with pride. I think he may be a good choice to remove Wotte with NOW given some of the descriptions given of the scene in the dressing room at Hillsborough before the match. Better in some ways than MLT (who I desperately would like to see stay a legend rather than a manager!) Wotte is inspiring failure, like his master before him.

Absolutely. Every statement Lowe has made since December has been directly about laying blame elsewhere and maintaining his reputation... but now that's completely destroyed.

Let me ask a couple of questions seldom asked but significant. 1. Did Lowe set them up for success when they took over? The answer is ... NO. 2. When the chance to sell the Club thus removing the debt and giving us a chance to fight back with a decent manager (i.e. Coventry City) did Lowe accept the offer? The answer is... NO. So dont give me that crap from the mouth of Lowe himself that it isnt Lowe's fault. There were key decisions that would have mitigated against the debt caused by the almost successful gamble to get us back into the Premiership from Crouch. They revolved around SELLING the club and those who failed to take them in order to try and save a doomed plc deserve to be strung up from the Itchen Bridge. Fact is (AND IT IS A FACT!) - as usual - Lowe has made a bad situation WORSE. Deny that SOG.

Well he HAS been shouting from the rooftops to tell us that it wasn't his fault and without directly naming others has certainly narrowed the period down to prevent litigation but tell the world it was Wilde and Crouch's fault. And given the evidence of other serious negligence from the man over the years as well as Mr Fry's comments recently saying he couldnt understand who the Club was not put into Administration [by Lowe, and by implication to attract a buyer] much much earlier to ease on the damage being done by neglegent management I think those IF's are HIGHLY LIKELY'S!

He has this time! No one's going to take on a Chairman of such confirmed FAILURE status now he's labeled by the second biggest Bank in the UK as a dud! Optimism is hanging out of me now SOG! Just need to see who the new owners are now and whether they are prepared to sack Wotte, bring in a decent manager, clear out the crap kids and embrace the people who love this club like the old greats. It'll happen ...and will certainly keep my optimism going! Lowe's gone from football for good.

Come on SOG, you dont really believe that Lowe's sacking by Barclay's was due to the credit crunch? It was due to thorough incompetence and the FACT Lowe FAILED to deliver financially. Simple. BArclay's have even told us that! Come on SOG, Lowe was and always will be regarded as THE biggest disaster in Southampton FC's history, whether it is entirely his fault or not. That is how he will sit in our hearts.

Spot on Paul. That is a fact... and I love the irony that Mr Lowe was regarded as some sort of prudent financial chap but was ultimately hanged, drawn and quartered by the very people who some thought admired his financial ability. Fantastic. Justice came eventually... Now here's to the new owners!

But it doesnt take away the worst decision made in Southampton's history over the last 49 years.... 'Dutch Total Football With Kids and Coaches who Didnt know the league or Opposition' (whilst paying experienced men to stay in the training ground and sacking a decent manager). Overdraft or not. We could have been in a better postion now (or the same but cemented in the CCC) but for that incompetence. Ask Nigel Pearson what he thinks.

Dont you? There was an increase... and certainly was in terms of optimism. This time we've seen masses return now he's gone for good too.

I dont. I think Wotte would have had the same daft youth policy to deal with as JP (who I regard as being slightly better; certainly the evidence shows him asa more successful manager in terms of achievements to date). Result would have been relegation sooner or same IMHO. No - the Club Policy was the daft bit... and ironically it was one that Wotte promoted. Sorry, Wotte was one of the bad cells that was part of the now eradicated Lowe-cancer. I am sure he's about to be surgically removed to finish the job.

Exactly.

Result of Reverse-takeover!

No, disagree. Sell as many as you can keep the 5-6 decent players amongst them and have them fight for their places. They're broken. Broken by the daft youth policy. They have failed and been relegated. They are losers. Clear them out and lets get a decent manager and buy some men.

SLH plc is dead. Long Live SFC.

Relegation.

Realistically it lies almost entirely with Lowe's incompetence and has a little to do with Crouch and some to do with Wilde. Sorry Prof, disagree with that bit. But, agree with you that Lowe didn't do it to spite the fans, he genuinely tried to do his best for the Club... it's just when you're that incompetent your best is really quite poor.

Most of us do 19... most of us... and alot of us have some common sense in it. Goodnight.

And on that golden post summary of the days lowelites, I bid you all goodnight.

19. Lowe sacked NP. He then apointed JP and Wotte. He then introduced a club policy of only playing youth and sidelined the seasoned experienced professionals. He then told us all it was going to work after a number of confused CCC sides allowed us to win some games away. CCC teams then realised we were kids and played us professionally. We lost. JP walked. Wotte reversed the youth policy, some success then failure. Now... I am sorry mate but which bit of screwing up the club this season has that got to do with anyone else? I am all for laying some blame at Crouch for his gamble. I am all for killing the boardroom in their entiretiy for refusing to sell the club to SISU and/or other interested parties when we had the chance. But I'm afraid only one man made the FOOLISH decision to play youth and sideline experience (whilst paying their salaries). Only one man disunited the fan base. Only one man turn away thousands of fans through his arrogance and incompetence this season.. and you know whats actually nice about it? Being able - along with many others on here who campaigned so hard to stop this farce last July - to say... I TOLD YOU SO. Rather have been wrong... but hey. I have a brain.

Good call that.

I just reread some of the posts on this thread. I actually feel a little sick knowing that the players put in such a disgustingly poor performance. Clear out in League 1 may be required. We may as well start with the kids now they're broken.

Was she at Cambridge as well?

or... 'you cant win anything with kids'.

All pretty friendly places though!