S-Clarke

He's not been a world beater, but he's been ok so far I think. Not sure what people expected from him? He came here with good pedegree, just needs to settle into the side and get used to this league. He's really no different to Tadic.

A very depressing, yet somewhat unsurprising result given the last 2 years of slow and painful regression. We've not really played badly this season, in parts we've looked dangerous and look more likely to score goals - as we did last night. The main problem which continues throughout the spine and will continue for as long as certain individuals are present is our lack of bottle and leadership. Whilst the likes of Lemina may be individually talented, he doesn't half shrink when the going gets tough. We have some good individual quality, but we have a very, very poor makeup of a team. No real leaders, no real bottle. Just a bunch of nice and meek characters who shrink into the ground whenever something bad happens – whether that’s a sending off or conceding a single goal. I wouldn’t trust this lot to hold a 3-0 lead. That's 2 home games on the trot where we've tossed away two wins, not down to a lack of quality, but down to a lack of character and bottle. That won't change on the training pitch, that will only change with a player cull and a much better recruitment strategy. Given that we can't change any players now then this theme will continue I'm sure.

Oh dear, now what have you done! James-Ward-Prowse, doo doo doo doo doo Danny Ings....do....

No way. I can't get away from that song, now it's going to be at the football FFS.

They msut be missing Long.

All done, he stays. No one would pay even a small % of his wages, basically. He's earning too much here, but there were enquiries.

What a weird post. Not sure you even know what your point is! At the end of the day, if they're good enough they'll play. If they're not, they'll be playing for Burton. Simples.

It's very hard for the fans to jump on side when you witness the same crap as you've sat through for 2 previous seasons. For any season ticket holder over the last 2 seasons, in my opinion, we deserve some sort of loyalty discount. A season payment back would just about cover it. It's been kind of like throwing money up in the air and not getting anything for it. A right old waste of a saturday, but we still go. Although the regulars around me are no longer going, lots of single game folk there now. (maybe it was something i said).

We do lack a central figure in my opinion. If you look at our strikers, only Austin is the player you'd consider to be a central striker. Ings, Gabbiadini, Long are more support players. You need someone like Murray, Denney, Benteke, Tosun - someone who can be a central figure, someone you can build the play around. They can then help bring others into play. We seem to be a team who doesn't really know how it wants to play, caught between two styles without any real way to play either. A confused recruitment strategy and odd squad management have left us in a bit of a mess.

Redmond had a great first half, as direct as he has been and causing issues with his quick movement - he tailed off a little though. Lemina was ok, but struggles to impose himself and seems to shrink when the going gets tough - as do many of our other players.

Should have shifted him out weeks ago. Doubt we'll find any takers to pay even a % of his mini fortune though.

I don't even think he knows what league we're in at the moment to be honest.

The squad is such a mess that he's probably struggling to work out the best formula. Similar players all over the pitch, all with similar failings. 3 managers have chopped and changed the midfield because our recruitment team have made such a f**ing mess of it.

I'd have ditched Cedric in the summer, but I doubt there'd have been any takers. He was helped out when Virgil and Fonte were in the side, but he's now shown up massivley. Very, very average.

We have assembled a team of bottlers and fragile personalities, they are so brittle it’s ridiculous. The spine of this team just melts at the slightest adversity they face in 90mis.They can't seem to manage a game, always doing dumb things at some point. But just take a second to look at the state of this squad, hats off to our famed recruitment team for managing to assemble the most samey bunch of uneventful players I've ever seen, all with pretty meek personalities it has to be said. Apparently it should be lauded that we've got such a deep squad of players now, but when you've got £20m, 18m, £10m signings out on loan and £15m signings not even making the squad, you've got to look and say it has been a massive fail over the last 3 years. Why Ross Wilson is still here, walking around like he’s some sort of god is beyond me. He’s failed at his job and should be sacked immediately. But if we’re honest, is anyone surprised by this result really? The same issues we had last season (Hoedt, Cedric, Hojbjerg, Long) all there to see and all starting. Continue with the same crap and you'll get the same results. I'd have shifted all 4 of those out in the summer if it was up to me, but I imagine we're paying them all a mini fortune in what has been another epic squad management fail. Moan about the manager all you want, but the players are the same and have been now for ages, all continue with the same failings (this will be the third season for a lot of them). Still waiting to see what all the fuss is about Hojbjerg or Lemina - both failed players from big clubs and if we're honest, showing us everything as to why they were failed players at big clubs. This isn't just an issue with today, this is 3 seasons of diabolical recruitment and self-lauding of ourselves which has meant we have completely lost control of the entire squad.

Stoke are having a serious hangover for sure. But I'd have thought more frustrations should be aimed at that Saido fella surely? He is a striker, they spent £16m on him on an investment in their forward line, and he hasn't scored since 2016 FFS (and that was for WBA). That makes long look like a worldy.

This is just another small-scale commercial partnership I think. Nothing to really see here.

That's what £32m quid gets you. Although he'd still have Stephens and Hoedt for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

2002 called and wants its hairstyle back.

Mourinho has lost his way, overtaken by a fresher breed of progressive managers. He keeps bleating on about teams 'buying' the title, but this is a Utd team who spent £95m on Lukaku and £90m on Pogba, in addition to the huge outlay on Sanchez and the £35m each on Bailly and Lindelof. The bloke has become a parody of himself. Needs to go back to Portgual.

Bit of an odd thread again, Charlie.

The Europa League continuing its horrible habit of killing off any momentum from a medium/small sized English club who qualify for it.

He's actually known as Moi.

The players were a huge issue last season, let's not devoid them of any blame and say it was all because the poor little flowers didn't like MP. MP didn't help though as he was pretty meek. Hoedt, Stephens, Romeu, Austin, JWP, Cedric, Bertrand, Lemina, Gabbiadini, Long - all struggled last year because they're all limited footballers if we're honest. We play again with the same crap as last year and we have a similar result, so for me the main blame lies with our recruitment from the last few years, some of the fee's we've splashed out on absolute garbage has been horrific.

6/10