S-Clarke

But we won't stay 17th if we carry on like that. We'll be relegated by Feburary. I think we've all got some fair balls as a fan base, but when you see the same mistakes, every.single.week, it gets to a point where you can't be arsed to reason it anymore.

As hard as it is for me to say this, I think he's lost. He's not sure where he's going at the moment.

What more can we learn? We're not learning anything, because we're doing the same things every, single, week. We've had enough blue lines drawn to create a bloody tower block. Something is wrong, whether it's the coaching or the ability of the players, but we don't learn.

Yeah, Norwich fans aren't taken by Hughton and a fair few want him gone already. Quite a few QPR fans have had it with Hughes as well, but that's pretty obvious. Reading fans have big question marks over Brian, but Villa fans are quite content with Lambert..at the moment. So predictably, the clubs who are struggling are debating the same.

weird thread.

Better defensively.

The one positive has to be that we're not in the bottom 3, and quite frankly how we're not is unbelievable. We're easily the worst team in the league as it currently stands.

what an embarrassing 2nd half, against what is a pretty bog standard team.

Very well put!

I don't think he'll be in charge on Monday if I'm honest.

Torn a new one.

It's very sad to see after all the positive records we've broken in the last few years.

Just need to hope we're still in touch come January.

It's embarrassing. No way to really sum it up. We just haven't got the players in that sense.

game over.

what the hell fonte? completely lost the ball. Moron.

In attack, and possession we're pretty good. That's not really in argument. But defensively, there isn't a team worse. We're just not at the races in that sense, that's what will kill us.

Lmabert header, great cross Clyne.

jeez, he wasn't far off. Luck on the GK's side there!

Free kick, just outside. We've got our zip back, let's hope we've not left the backdoor ajar.

Mayuka and Lambert on.

Great goal lalanna. terrific. Wonderful setup by Jay Rodriguez

Well, we don't really have one. That's a stupid decision as well. As is the decision to totally change our system, the players clearly don't quite get it as much as they did last season. I think we've tried to change too much, and tried to be too clever behind the scenes. Success comes from carrying on what you've done well int he past.

Last season was accelerated due to our start, and our momentum. It's easier to carry momentum in the championship and there are lots of horrific teams in the championship. I don't think players like Guly, Fox, Jos, Richardson etc were ever top 2 players. The issue has come that we've put a little too much reliance on them this year, when they're just not good enough. Probably should have replaced more than we did in the summer.

What's frustrating is that in the first half we defended well. We were aggressive, and did all the right things. West Ham upped the game in the 2nd half, and in 2 mins it's 2-0. A decent team will never, ever, ever let that happen. I'm a massive positive thinker, but at this level we are absolutely crap and it's horrible to watch after the last few years. We're here too soon.