Thorpe-le-Saint

This Lord D, hits the nail on the head - I could easily name about 4 or 5 members of staff where I work who are absolute RUBBISH.

Of course I am, you can't retaliate against children. What is your point?

You like dune, are deluded. Go into a school and have a look for yourself before you make accusations that are unfounded and not true!

dune, I have said this OVER AND OVER AGAIN: The school holidays are there for the benefit of the pupils, not for the staff. Also dune, what you need to take into account is that we ALWAYS have to pay premium prices for holidays (which apparently we don't deserve) and we can NEVER take time off when we want (for example, I wanted to Glasto this year, but I couldn't as it was term time!). I tell you now, you reduce teacher holiday without rising pay substantially, you will lose thousands and thousands of teachers. I know it falls on deaf ignorant ears but I'll say it anyway. It's 8:30, i've been home for 20 mins (apparently we work 9-3), been sworn at today and generally talked too like I was a peice of **** (now remember, I can't swear back, I can't 'give it back as good as I got it' like I could with adults, I just have to take it on the chin). The FIVE (not six) weeks holiday coming up I will be spending 2 of it in school with the new Yr.7 intake and another 3-4 days sorting out my classroom and preparing for next year - that leaves me with 2 weeks and 3 days of actual hoilday. My half terms are usually spent in the house catching up with paperwork and marking/lesson planning, my easter and xmas holidays (apart from the 'holiday days' xmas day, easter sunday etc) are spent working; either inputting data, assessing pupil progress, writing reports etc. I can hear him now "Ooooh marking books, wow!" I have 6 KS3 classes and 2 KS4 classes, each pupil has a book, it roughly takes on average to thouroughly mark 2 weeks worth of worth about 20 mins...you do the maths! So all in all I reckon I actually have 4 weeks of 'not doing anything' which is NO different to those in your beloved private sector. I'll say it again, dune, if you think we have it easy, go into a secondary school and spend a week in ANY department and see what we have do...but you won't, because you're an ignorant **** who likes to stick his fingers in his ears and his head in the sand! But regardless, they're not going to change it, and so when it's July 16th at 1pm and school finishes for the summer, I'll think of dune and smile.

Those teachers you mentioned have been weeded out over the last couple of years, you simply can't get away (or couldn't under Labour) with that anymore :-)

Already the case in Maths and Science which is why new recruits get their 'golden hello' to make the job more inticing...

My god, ALWAYS a drama with you.

This, it's bloody unbelivable!

Haha, I would love to know where salarytrack gets their figures from! I would LOVE to earn that much!

Why o why am I biting?!? Well I can't reply to this with any certainty but I have a masters degree in history, I'm pretty sure I could mop the floor with someone who's highest academic achievement is a diploma. Talking of which, if you're so good at history, why didn't you pursue that path rather than the diploma? I really do pity you. As TDD suggest above, perhaps they could bring back the 13-19 section of the forum (or whatever the age range was) for dune? Anyway, after this light relief, back to the topic...

The thing is, bless him, dune has never read any history books and therefore doesn't realise the irony of his beliefs. If he was a TRUE Nazi, he would believe that the state should own 'everything' and that there should be limited private business: hence the name "National Socialist"...ah well, more reason to laugh at him I guess!

Well no of course, but I still think the banking sector (note, not the private) has really got away with this deficit. Surely I am not the only one who would have liked to have a seen a 'Robin Hood' tax as a gesture of "You ****ing caused this **** heap of a mess we are in, have some of that!"? As another poster commented the other day, the government has done a fantastic job of piting the public sector against the private sector.

THe only 'front line staff' who I know of for certain who earn less than 21k are nurses...can someone enlighten me further? For example, I missed the bonus by about £10!

You are so wrong dune, however I will admit, I did once (when I was about 14!!) hold the same attitude towards people with manic depression that you do now and it wasn't until I started talking to the person in question who had the illness that I realised just how wrong I was about it. You have a choice: Continue with your beliefs or go out there and look at the facts in order to become a more rounded human being and have a better understanding of these issues. I just hope that you never suffer, directly or indirectly, as a result of a mental illness.

Come on then, enlighten us... Both are metal health issues, they should be treated with the same amount of respect, or in your case, lack of it!

I suppose, we don't take him seriously when he uses an article from the Daily Heil or Daily Racist - then again do we EVER really take him seriously?

Sssshhhh don't let fact get in the way of dogma! I wonder how dune feels about people who suffer from post traumatic stress? Should they shut up and get on with it dune?

I park in the car park near Mint Casino, perfect place....the parking spot not the Casino. A bit of a trek into town, but good for a quick easy get-a-away afterwards.

I'll leave you alone with your warped views. M.E is NOT 'Yuppie Flu' and people who sufer from it certainly don't bring it on themselves, but who am I to argue with your 1880 attitude?

It's idiocy such as this that makes the discussion of mental health in this country a 'taboo' subject and makes people feel ashamed of something they have no control over. We are not in the Victorians period, grow up!

As somone with a relative who has Bi-Polar, I find that extremely offensive. Perhaps you should take a visit to the instituion she is in and then tell me they should stop 'mopeing around the house all day'. Also, for those on the uber-right, her health care is not funded by the NHS, it is funded by family.

That is why in this scenario the minimum wage should be higher, to stop people choosing a life of benefits/crime over getting a job!!

He may well have an internal illness that qualifies him derry. Not all disabilities are visible you know. For example, illness that relate to an inability to control bowel movements etc are able to have a blue badge as they may need to stop somewhere quickly to use a toilet etc.

Do you have any figures to show that they bring in more than they fecking spend?

I honestly thought this thread would be on p.10 with enraged ST holders calling for Cortese's head. Even I was taken aback by the 'general sale' straight away approach, this match will be hit or miss I think...