scotty

more to the point, how did he get up on his feet again? a winch?

I have no idea, perhaps they didn't want to and it was a genuine mistake. Either way, they'd hardly go on record and say it was intentional, and in any case I was more interested in the guilt or otherwise of al-megrahi, seeing as that was a crime carried out in British territory and imho a travesty of what we call justice.

There was no connection between the two except for the revenge attack planned by the terrorist group. The Iranian airliner incident was entirely separate. Take a look at Dr Jim Swire's website, his daughter was killed at Lockerbie, and he and a good percentage of the Scots affected have completely ruled out the idea of Libya carrying it out, in fact they are hopping mad that the authorities havent gone after the real perpetrators. If you're really interested, pick up a report by Paul Foot called "Lockerbie: the flight from justice".

incidentally, did anyone else notice David Cameron's BBC interview today about the release of al megrahi? He was on about how he should have died in jail, then said "because of the crime he had done," then he very noticeably amended himself and said "er, been convicted of". ever yours, Grassy Knollington.

try to keep up, the American downing of the Iranian plane was nothing to do with wanting a confrontation with Libya at that time. However, a load of muslims were killed and a muslim extremist palestinian terrorist group vowed to down a US plane in revenge. They were almost certainly the group responsible for Lockerbie. We and the americans decided we either couldnt prove they did it, or more likely, that it wasnt in our interests to do so as it would me more profitable at that stage to stick the diplomatic boot into Libya, hence we found a likely thug by the name of al-megrahi and framed him up. Coincidentally, you may have noticed that Libya has now returned to the capitalist oil fold a lot tamer than they were before the attack. Handy, that

lol!!

I could send you my diet sheet if you like, Alpine, Im a skinny bastard. Cant seem to put weight on at all.

.....and British, I hope

that could be considered inflammatory.

hence the joke about the white guy in the pub toilet noticing the black guy next to him, "christ, thats a size, wtf??" black guy says "its a tribal thing, my mum hung a rock from it when I was a kid". White guy says "I'll give that a go myself". 2 weeks later they bump into each other in the same pub, black guy nods downwards, winks and says "hows it going?"..white guy beams and replies "great, Im halfway there, its still the same size but its already gone black". Arf

I meant your description of him as "a cripple", which is normally used as a derogatory term or insult. For my money we took equal chances on Murty and Connolly, one worked out, one didnt.

Wont happen. Too slippery by half.

dont mate, not even in jest.

If you happen to have dogs as well, the Red Shoot near the High Corner Inn is the most dog-friendly pub I've ever been in. The bar staff bring a water bowl for the mutt, and theres a bowl of doggie biscuits on the bar. Unlike a lot of boozers where dogs are made clearly unwelcome.

A little harsh imo, and from an admin man as well........ Arizona = closet troll?????

I'd take him, but only if the Rooney deal falls through. Cant see that happening tho

I dont think my nerves could stand that.

my thoughts exactly. Reminds me of the plaintive yowling from my missus, 3 weeks ago she actually deigned to drive somewhere when we went out for a meal, tried to clean the windscreen en route and cursed her car because the screenwash was empty. Fast-forward to yesterday, she comes home from work in a foul mood and declares that "that ****ing windscreen washer is still empty!!!" words fail me

this

that may have been a factor.

How could we possibly know who was on board? Its entirely possible that it was deliberate. And if it wasnt, that wouldnt stop an Iranian/Middle Eastern terrorist group from vowing to down a US airliner in revenge, which they in all likelihood did. Al Megrahi and Libya were due a kicking, and Lockerbie gave the US an excuse to deliver it.

lmfao, welcome back, Nigel!!

try to catch a guy called Ray Wills from the latimer street music shop, he usually plays some flamenco/classical guitar. Amazingly good, normally early saturday afternoon near barclays.

correct, except in my case it was stella.

if its a massive Caterpillar, maybe Markus has it in stock