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Toke/Halo, good points regarding The Man's tacit approval of the grey mafia's peddling of soft porn in The Lounge. The Mods' treatment of TMS is borderline filicide. It's a determined attempt to exterminate TMS and the Muppets that live here. St. Chalet comes in here with his heavy, sweaty truncheon in hand, smashes up the place, deletes threads and forces nipples to be covered up and (litori to be hooded and sheathed. And yet he strolls over to The Lounge and it's all bonhomie and games of truncheon tennis (backhand, forehand, backhand, forehand, backhand, 'juice'), as he rubs shoulders with the dirty raincoat-wearing Peter Stringfellows, as they jointly exploit our "female brothers". It's inequitous, it's unfair and I'm not going to put up with it. I mean, if this Lounge porn is sufficiently 'hard' that it can force blood into places where no blood has been for many a year, well then surely the Mods should be warning and infracting? Would those threads have so many hits if it really was 'soft' porn? At the very least, it's mildly swollen-porn, or more probably engorged porn. Soft porn it aint. It's like the 1970s in there with their treatment of our equals-from-a-different-gender. What next, a thread discussing people of different ethnic origins and their stereotypical acts and sayings? #hopeidiebeforeigetold #fukofftokeiamnotthatold They missed one by the way...

I know, right? What's that about, Toke? "Bear, you're so funny. Come over to the Main Board, and then come over to The Lounge, so we can fawn over you and come over your posts." He's sold out. He's rock and roll now. He's not coming back. But you know what, Toke? He's an immigrant wherever he goes now. He has no real 'home' anymore. Just wait for the reception he'll get here if he deigns to post in TMS again. He'll probably pull that one-trick phoney act again to ingratiate himself with the Muppet massive. You know, he'll review some porn...yawn. It wasn't even that funny anyway, and he obviously can't write proper. By the way, the bear in the image I posted was a metaphor - standing guard at the gates of heaven. It isn't our Bear anyway, he'd have turned his back on the penile foe in cunnilingual cowardice.

How you bloody been you drongo, haven't seen you for a week? With the greatest respect, Toke, a little titillation isn't going to turn back the tide. it's like Kurt Cobain reaching for a sticking plaster, moments after his very own big bang. It'd be like you sticking your finger in the dyke to plug a leak. At some point we both know that more liquid will be released. You're fiddling while Rome burns, and standing idly by while TSW dies. But if you think Shunga will help, at least do things properly. Missed you honey. Glad to have you back. x Toke's a ****. P.S. in no way did I have to Google Shunga, I knew all about it and have my own collection - from which the above is an extract.

Ah, a new poster. Welcome to TSW Tokyo-Saint (is that how you pronounce it?), and welcome to The Muppet Show. Relax, kick back, spread your shoeless toes in the warm sand of mirth and friendship, and tilt your head toward the baking heat of The Muppet Show sun. It's summer in TMS and that can only mean two things. Silence. My 'crew' of assembled guinea pigs is regularly climbing up the trouser leg of information to gnaw at the scrotum of news over at ZeitgeiStMarys. I say scrotum and not 'the hooded lady' because the wide-eyed 'newscaster' in that video is infact a man - just like Charlie Wyatt the BBC's defence despondent. BTW Toke. Can I call you Toke? Like a Dickensian prophet I've come in my nightshirt to share a stark vision of the future with you, and to urge you to not sit idly masturbating with chopsticks all summer, but to instead take action before it is too late. Toke, I have a vision of a post-football-forum apocalypse, where you will walk down the Information Super-High-Street, and you will notice and perhaps lament that TSW is gone - closed and boarded up. Occupying its IP-Address on the Information Super-High-Street will be an LGBT-related charity who are giving advice on how any and every single human can actually **** anything of any sex anywhere in the world at any time anywhere at any time. You might consider this proposition for a moment, and think "more power to them", but then you will be drawn back from your labrador-sex reverie by this nagging question.... You will start to blame yourself as you try to peer through the glass frontage of the charity shop onto what was once a proud and vibrant football forum. You'll try to look through the window and will instinctively form a peek with your hand over your eyes to stop the baking TMS sun reflecting the glare from your pasty, Scotchland-born face. You'll urge your eyes to quickly focus through the bare patches in the Windolene-smeared glass to the two lesbians and a mongrel at the back of the LGBT*4ME shop. You'll momentarily consider warning one of them of the gastrointestinal impact of 'eating' beans, but instead, as usual, you'll decide to pleasure yourself on the Information Super-High-Street and in broad daylight. But, before you hit full stride, before you sprinkle vinegar on your finger chips, before you fire from the semolina howitzer, you'll find tears welling up in your eyes and you'll start to wonder about the sub-atomic world, as the surprisingly short shadow cast by your full member gets smaller and smaller and smaller. You'll fall to your knees, stow your knob and sob. Toke, I promise you. There will be a time that you will miss TSW so much that you'll spill saline and not semen. Even two lesbians (good looking ones too, not like Val McDermid) and a labadoodle will not be enough to keep that little blood valve closed at the hilt of your sword. Against all common sense, against received wisdom, you will find yourself willing to give anything for one more glimpse of "The SaintBletch 'hilarious fun with words' thread" thread. I don't expect you to believe me, Toke, but I ask you to cast me as Nostradanmus and remember that you were warned. So what, you may ask, did I do to try to keep TSW going? I created ZSM Toke, to urge the Twitterati to bring their pithy putdowns conveyed in a "dozen-squared minus four" characters, and to eschew their retweets and direct messages, and to instead part with a fiver to keep The Man's IP address from falling into the hands of paraphilic charities, and to stop The Man's rusty Sheriff's Baj from having to busk outside with a scruffy guitar for curry coinage. That's what I did, Toke. I only went and bloody changed the future of the whole entire world or whatever. That's all. That is all. Toke's a **** ...and two, forgetting to enumerate all the elements in a list.

And just done the same in the eating area at Euston station. Thanks BTT. I suppose I was warned...

Deep, pap. Deep. I'll take a look if I get some free time, sounds like an interesting idea.

Glad to hear it Plastic. I will be making it more mobile-friendly in time, but at the moment my free time is going on making ZSM post summaries of trends to The Saints Web. More to follow on that. One thing you can do now to make it more-mobile friendly, is to change the maximum number of words down from the default 150 to something between 70 and 90. This gives the mobile/tablet less work to do. As for hanging Chrome on iOS, did I really do that? #soproud Can you reproduce it, Plastic? Does it happen often, or after it's been running for a certain amount of time? I'm not doing anything especially 'clever', so I'm surprised that it died. Any further information would be good. Cheers, Bletch.

...automatically posted by ZeitgeiStMarys. Saints-related trends on Twitter and The Saints Web... ZeitgeiStmarys: Southampton FC - #saintsfc (twitter) / (1) [TABLE=width: 100%, align: left] [TR] [TD=width: 5%, align: right]#[/TD] [TD=width: 28%]Most mentioned[/TD] [TD=width: 5%, align: right]% of max[/TD] [TD=width: 26%]Trending up[/TD] [TD=width: 5%, align: right]% of max[/TD] [TD=width: 26%]Trending down[/TD] [TD=width: 5%, align: right]% of min[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD] back [/TD] [TD=align: right] 100.00 [/TD] [TD] back [/TD] [TD=align: right] 100.00 [/TD] [TD] back [/TD] [TD=align: right] 100.00 [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=align: right]2[/TD] [TD] arsenal [/TD] [TD=align: right] 91.07 [/TD] [TD] arsenal [/TD] [TD=align: right] 100.00 [/TD] [TD] arsenal [/TD] [TD=align: right] 100.00 [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=align: right]3[/TD] [TD] follow [/TD] [TD=align: right] 82.14 [/TD] [TD] follow [/TD] [TD=align: right] 100.00 [/TD] [TD] follow [/TD] [TD=align: right] 100.00 [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=align: right]4[/TD] [TD] red [/TD] [TD=align: right] 82.14 [/TD] [TD] red [/TD] [TD=align: right] 100.00 [/TD] [TD] red [/TD] [TD=align: right] 100.00 [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=align: right]5[/TD] [TD] timeline [/TD] [TD=align: right] 82.14 [/TD] [TD] timeline [/TD] [TD=align: right] 100.00 [/TD] [TD] timeline [/TD] [TD=align: right] 100.00 [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=align: right]6[/TD] [TD] #saintstwitterfamily [/TD] [TD=align: right] 82.14 [/TD] [TD] #saintstwitterfamily [/TD] [TD=align: right] 100.00 [/TD] [TD] #saintstwitterfamily [/TD] [TD=align: right] 100.00 [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=align: right]7[/TD] [TD] white [/TD] [TD=align: right] 82.14 [/TD] [TD] white [/TD] [TD=align: right] 100.00 [/TD] [TD] white [/TD] [TD=align: right] 100.00 [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=align: right]8[/TD] [TD] supporter [/TD] [TD=align: right] 82.14 [/TD] [TD] supporter [/TD] [TD=align: right] 100.00 [/TD] [TD] supporter [/TD] [TD=align: right] 100.00 [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=align: right]9[/TD] [TD] #afc [/TD] [TD=align: right] 80.36 [/TD] [TD] #afc [/TD] [TD=align: right] 100.00 [/TD] [TD] #afc [/TD] [TD=align: right] 100.00 [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=align: right]10[/TD] [TD] uk [/TD] [TD=align: right] 67.86 [/TD] [TD] uk [/TD] [TD=align: right] 100.00 [/TD] [TD] uk [/TD] [TD=align: right] 100.00 [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=align: right]11[/TD] [TD] move [/TD] [TD=align: right] 62.50 [/TD] [TD] move [/TD] [TD=align: right] 100.00 [/TD] [TD] move [/TD] [TD=align: right] 100.00 [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=align: right]12[/TD] [TD] chambers [/TD] [TD=align: right] 58.93 [/TD] [TD] chambers [/TD] [TD=align: right] 100.00 [/TD] [TD] chambers [/TD] [TD=align: right] 100.00 [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=align: right]13[/TD] [TD] mirror [/TD] [TD=align: right] 55.36 [/TD] [TD] mirror [/TD] [TD=align: right] 100.00 [/TD] [TD] mirror [/TD] [TD=align: right] 100.00 [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=align: right]14[/TD] [TD] sport [/TD] [TD=align: right] 55.36 [/TD] [TD] sport [/TD] [TD=align: right] 100.00 [/TD] [TD] sport [/TD] [TD=align: right] 100.00 [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=align: right]15[/TD] [TD] luke [/TD] [TD=align: right] 51.79 [/TD] [TD] luke [/TD] [TD=align: right] 100.00 [/TD] [TD] luke [/TD] [TD=align: right] 100.00 [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Updated on: Saturday 02 August, 2014 at 12:08:14 Mysteriously developed by ZeitgeiStMarys...

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...automatically posted by ZeitgeiStMarys. Saints-related trends on Twitter and The Saints Web... ZeitgeiStmarys: Southampton FC - #saintsfc (twitter) / (1) Most mentioned... ① ▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▶ today ② ▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▶ good ③ ▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▶ luck ④ ▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▶ boys ⑤ ▷▷▷▷▷▶ #lfc ⑥ ▷▷▷▶ class ⑦ ▷▷▷▶ chambers ⑧ ▷▷▷▶ #wemarchon ⑨ ▷▷▶ shaw ⑩ ▷▷▶ v ⑪ ▷▷▶ liverpool ⑫ ▷▷▶ loss ⑬ ▷▷▶ anfield ⑭ ▷▶ season ⑮ ▷▶ 1 Trending up... ① ▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▶ luck ② ▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▶ boys ③ ▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▶ today ④ ▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▶ good ⑤ ▷▷▷▷▶ class ⑥ ▷▷▶ chambers ⑦ ▷▷▶ v ⑧ ▷▷▶ rts ⑨ ▷▷▶ endless ⑩ ▷▷▶ deserves ⑪ ▷▷▶ apostrophe ⑫ ▷▷▶ shaw ⑬ ▷▷▶ loss ⑭ ▷▶ paddy ⑮ ▷▶ 1 Trending down... ① ▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▶ anfield ② ▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▶ trip ③ ▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▶ play ④ ▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▶ #saintsfc's ⑤ ▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▶ beat ⑥ ▷▷▷▷▷▷▶ fans ⑦ ▷▷▷▷▷▶ #lfc ⑧ ▷▷▷▷▶ liverpool ⑨ ▷▷▷▶ players ⑩ ▷▷▷▶ team ⑪ ▷▷▶ 30pm ⑫ ▷▷▶ time ⑬ ▷▷▶ 12 ⑭ ▷▷▶ game ⑮ ▷▷▶ #coyr Updated on: Sunday 17 August, 2014 at 11:07:34 Importunately coined by ZeitgeiStMarys...

...automatically posted by ZeitgeiStMarys. Saints-related trends on Twitter and The Saints Web... The Saints Web forum (tapatalk) / (5) Most mentioned... ① ▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▶ good ② ▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▶ liverpool ③ ▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▶ game ④ ▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▶ team ⑤ ▷▷▷▷▷▷▶ koeman ⑥ ▷▷▷▷▷▷▶ time ⑦ ▷▷▷▷▷▶ spurs ⑧ ▷▷▷▷▷▶ back ⑨ ▷▷▷▷▷▶ play ⑩ ▷▷▷▷▶ squad ⑪ ▷▷▷▷▶ boruc ⑫ ▷▷▷▷▶ top ⑬ ▷▷▷▷▶ make ⑭ ▷▷▷▷▶ games ⑮ ▷▷▷▷▶ batman Trending up... ① ▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▶ game ② ▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▶ squad ③ ▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▶ job ④ ▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▶ lovren ⑤ ▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▶ big ⑥ ▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▶ boruc ⑦ ▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▶ great ⑧ ▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▶ yoshida ⑨ ▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▶ fonte ⑩ ▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▶ oldnick ⑪ ▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▶ read ⑫ ▷▷▷▷▷▷▶ good ⑬ ▷▷▷▷▷▷▶ make ⑭ ▷▷▷▷▷▷▶ today ⑮ ▷▷▷▷▷▷▶ year Trending down... ① ▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▶ koeman ② ▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▷▶ morgan ③ ▷▷▷▷▷▷▶ s-clarke ④ ▷▷▷▷▶ back ⑤ ▷▷▷▷▶ manager ⑥ ▷▷▷▶ 4 ⑦ ▷▷▷▶ art ⑧ ▷▷▷▶ training ⑨ ▷▷▶ liverpool ⑩ ▷▷▶ team ⑪ ▷▷▶ play ⑫ ▷▷▶ games ⑬ ▷▷▶ people ⑭ ▷▷▶ fans ⑮ ▷▷▶ leave Updated on: Sunday 17 August, 2014 at 11:06:33 Falteringly assembled by ZeitgeiStMarys...

The posts in this thread are being created automatically by a software project that I've been working on called ZeitgeiStMarys. These posts are for testing purposes at the moment, and therefore the test data in this thread MAY be is currently out of date. Move on, nothing to see here...yet...

In true David Coleman QoS style, err...what happened next? Poor bastard. I'd have to say that I think that if my job title was Giraffe Logistics Manager or similar, I'd pride myself on planning a route that avoided low bridges.

Reed: Yeah, and don't forget to get back to Lallana about his new contract, Ralph. Krueger: I thought we agreed that you'd do that - in an exceptional way. Reed: No, you said you'd do it before you went away for 8 weeks. Krueger: No, you said you'd do it - before you reminded me aboot the outstanding coaching manual you once wrote for the eff ayy. Reed: No, you said you'd do it - just after you'd told me that you had turned down another top major 'hockey job. Krueger: I distinctly remember you saying that you'd get on to it once you'd recruited the final 15 excellent excellence analysts Hodgson: Gentlemen, gentlemen! Adam Lallana joined Liverpool some weeks ago. Krueger: He's left this outstanding franchise? Reed: Well I'm going to need some more analysts if I'm going to replace him Hodgson: [shaking head] ****wits.

Apologies in advance if a) this has been posted before or b) it hasn't been posted, but you're sick of the format being posted time and time again. Actually, to complete the logical options - apologies also if c) it has been posted before and you're sick of the format being posted time and time again. Sent to me by a Liverpool supporting mate.

Hodgson: So which one of you two put the LIE in Liebherr?

[NOISES OFF - sounds like one man singing Oh When the Saints, really passionately and really slowly] Turkish: Oi Roy, you ****ing ****! I'll never forgive you for what you've done, you complete and utter mongtard - don't you know it's a crime to wear burberry cuffs with a barbour jacket?

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