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class. What brilliant times he gave us.

I once tried a Doner Kebab. It was foul.

Cereal for breakfast is wrong. Horrible foreign muck. Toast and pate/marmite/jam/marmalade/paste/honey for weekdays and a full English for weekends.

I'm off to a car boot sale. Hoping to find some spoons. Happy days.

I thought it was a good comparison. Thanks.

And he was right.

Labour are indisputeably left wing for some, but sadly not for their traditional voters. I would put you in the latter category.

I'd quite happily explain and had typed up an explanation but i've deleted it because it wouldn't have been politically correct enough for this forum.

Winston Churchill was also an ardent supporter of Empire. Explain to me how fascism and imperialism differ. As for your silly point about about being in a minority of 1 means you lose you're losing the plot. The point i made was that i'd still be right.

Nice one, it's always good to see the bookies paying out.

I may well be in a minority of 1 but i'd still be right. Winston Churchill made a speech (i can find the quote if you like) and stated that just because you're in a minority it doesn't mean you're wrong. By your logic to be right wing socialist you have to be national socialist, but to be left wing socialist you're just socialist. Working on your logic Liberals and Libereral democrats would evidently differ with the latter being democratic and the former not. I'd advise you stop digging yourself into a deeper hole.

Robsk II, my political views may seem bizarre to you. Translation : views you don't share, but at least i'm informed and able to debate. I have clearly shown that socialism isn't a left wing concept and that Labour has morphed into a left wing party. You might not like this being pointed out but it is a fact.

It's attitudes like yours that will ensure that the BNP and UKIP continue to grow. You sound like a mainstream politician that is completely out of touch with reality and in denial. More and more voters are becoming more and more unhappy with mainstream politics and these emotive words are becoming less and less meaningful given that they are being used completely out of context.

I am right on both points. We entered WW2 because we had a treaty with Poland to assist them if their soverignty was threatened. Poland just happened to have been invaded by Germany under fascist control. It could just have easily have been invaded by the Bolsheviks. Therefore we weren't fighting a crusade against Fascism, we were fighting to uphold a treaty against a country that happened to be fascist. On the second point you fail to understand that Socialism isn't a left wing wing ideal, nor has it ever been until Labour morphed into New Labour. Up until the the early 1980's Labour was a party for working class people with left, centre AND right wing views, but this changed and newspapers such as the Daily Mirror changed with it. National Socialism - do you know what this means? Well i'll tell you. It means Socialism for the Nationalists or in laymans terms a party for right wing working class voters. This shows that socialism isn't exclusively a left wing ideal.

Jacko's plans remind me of Hitler ordering his army to push on to Stalingrad. They could get there alright, but once they got there they were ****ed.

A lovely history lesson, but totally irrelvent to the point being discussed. Labour is tradionally a working class party for working class people with right, centre and left wing views. In recent years Labour has abandoned it's right wing voters (as have the Tories) and this is why the BNP and UKIP have a place in our democracy. Calling BNP and UKIP voters facists in ridiculous. They are abandoned Labour and Tory voters.

Ordinarily yes, but with the fundraising capital injection it could be that the Creditors, who are ultimately pulling Frys strings, are not negatively affected and therefore are waiting for the donations/revenue streams to exhaust before swallowing an inevitably bitter pill. The involvement of Marc Jackson is worry for me as i feel he's being used to artificially inflate the asking price. It seems however that the real bidders are wise to the situation hence the waiting game continues.

We've been in administration for some time now, and i understand this isn't necessarily abnormal or should be of concern over and above the actual predicament, but could it be that interested parties need the club to reach the 59th minute of the 11th hour to get the deal THEY want on THEIR terms? The more funds raised the longer Mark Fry has to get the best deal for the creditors and the longer he is kept in his lucrative work. I can see no reason why he'd want to get a deal done ASAP under these circumstances so inadvertantly the raising of funds could be doing more harm than good.

Either you are being deliberately obtuse or you haven't got a clue what you're on about. Up until recently Labour wasn't left wing in the Daily Mirror sense and for that matter the Daily Mirror wasn't left wing in it's current guise until they saw a market to sell their papers that none of the others catered for. Labour was the party for the working class, the Tories were the party for the middle/upper classes. All this left/right/middle ground talk was completely irrelevent to party politics at this period in our history. It's for this reason that the largest %age of BNP voters comes from ex Labour voters. They aren't left wing, they're right wing working class - as were the vast majority of those who fought for GB in WW2.

What has this got to do with Glen Hoddle?

There's no hungry horses/brewers fayres for the yoof to take over in Millwall so i expect all the posturing will be just that.

From Frys point of view maybe Jacko is helpful. A fantasist bidder is better than no competition for a real bidder. I wonder how much Jacko has cost Bournemouth and Saints with his games?

Jacko involved at Bournemouth. Jacko involved at Saints. It makes you wonder whether he's been given a back hander by someone to try and force the sale price up for real bidders...

You've got to be kidding. MJ is just a fantasist weirdo that is putting the future of SFC in grave danger with his fantasist games.

I've heard it all before. I'll stand by my instincts and past precedents when it comes to jacko.