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Nope, Posh wouldn't lend him the money.

Bit of excitement today (well for a monday) Someone bought 50000 shares at 27p, Let the speculation roll, first big(gish) trade for ages;

Read the trading statement again. Extract the salient facts and come and argue with me again. It doesn't say player trading profit of 12 million ,it say disposal of players amounting to 12 million (unless I can't read properly,although it depends how you read it) Trading loss 13 million before player trading, gross loss 8 million. We might have sold players for 12 million (Jones,Baird,Pele,Best Compensation plus add on for Theo) but we also bought players for a fair whack, Th figures would indicate that player trading profits reduce the loss from 13 million to 8 million.

Probably not actually. Their emoluments are absolutely zero when compared to those of the playing staff. Players get paid 12 months a year whether they play 23,26 or 30 games. Those who cost a lot in "appearance fees" aren't actually appearing. We make money out of the Carling,not shedloads but every extra game counts, till you get an away tie at the Emirates or Stamford Bridge, then you make a lot.Nothing can be so ignominious than a first round exit in front of 4000 fans like last year. Other great thing about the Carling is that in brings in total money, season tickets don't count.,

Anyway if you look at it closely our gate receipts for this season are probabably (so far) superior to those of last season. We have a 45% share of an extra 14K on the Carling cup alone, plus ther 3rd round to come,although it's true that the away tie at Rotherham won't bring much more than say another 45% of 8K or so; Having THREE home friendlies (although 1 was for Claus) probably taxed the purses and piggy banks of the faithful and the home games that followed probably suffered a bit. As for the 12 million plus on player trading I'm still waiting for confirmation on that,I think that if you do the maths you'll find that it was far far nearer 7.5 million (hint:Bale left on the 25th of May 2007)

Ah those would be the results that aren't published yet, just a brief trading statement that there would be a 5 million pre-tax loss on 14 million turnover. Are you all absolutely sure that we made 12 million on player trading last year or is that just a bit of fag packet calculation.?? When you speak of gate receipts being down this season have you taken into account the additional home friendly and the extra Carling Cup revenues? Just checking to see if I can make myself as miserable as you seem to be.

right; They could leave open the possibility of clubs not involved in anyway with Internationals playing League Cup, Cup or catch up matches. They'd get far better crowds in than on Tuesday or Wednesday nights.

Not just a publicity stunt organised by Power FM then. Ever thought how pat it is that Dyer turns up at the pump in the first 25 people. Must have been quite a few applicants, but he's there in the 25 firstcomers. Must have been tipped off ehh. Does he actually live near the pump in question? Anyone count exactly how many people got the free petrol, 25 or 26?

Any one of the 347 billionaires who ring up every day to see if anything's happening apparently. One got tired of waiting and bought Man City instead. He rang up the day after and said it was only because he was in a bad mood that day and he's still open to offers from us.

No but seriously though, some of the stories doing the rounds about what might happen when the LHC cranks up are laughable. The aliens who watch over us turning up on Wednesday morning to save us from our own folly is my favourite.

Well I don't know Nick, Alpine knows the team are crap-even though he's never seen them, he also knows the business plan is flawed,probably hasn't seen it either, must be a real Ouijah board buff,a medium, clairvoyant.

This is to protect his overblown ego, if you know you haven't a hope in hell of getting a job ,turn it down before you get turned down.Everyones a winner that way -Deschamps or some Croat or other.

What like Ipswich and QPR you mean; I thought everybody would have learned by now, you can't buy your way out of this league,not in 1 season anyway.

no come on Alpine, have you actually seen this plan or have you just first hand knowledge of what it says?. You've put yourself on the hot seat, let's be having an answer then, put up or shut up as the say.

They could have given you a bell then Alpine, you'd have set them sttrrraight right.

, Err don't get too many numpties in Devon, Darwin,Adelaide perhaps but not Devon,it's a stryne word with a very definite meaning. .

The race is not always to the swift. Daft saying really, try teling Usain Bolt that he's going to get beaten one day by a jogging grandma.

they can come round to my place,we're out every afternoon from about 1pm till 9pm when we go to work. My laptop has a sticky keyboard, cut out those jokes when I'm drinking my Capucciono lads,and they'd better bring a fork lift for the wife's handbag. Insurance is a marvellous thing nowadays with all those new for old sales gimmicks isn't it. What happened to all those rent a robbers that you could usually find in most pubs, nick your car,your TV or your granny, dump them in a pond somewhere so that you could get the insurance, ahh for those blissful 80's again.

Why because he's crap and expensive to run or because he was in some way involved in a minor misdemeanour of which a court of law ruled him not guilty.

Jeez who'd want a pair of saints curtains. Laura Ashley indoors would kick me out in 3 seconds flat if I tried to put a pair of those in the garden shed let alone in the house.:smt016:smt016:smt016:smt016

Good salesman, good "marketing". Why do you all pay £150 for a pair of Niké trainers when a pair of HiTecs would probably do just as well?

Hmm I told them all that yesterday, not many believed me apparently. It's a hard job being a voice of reason on this forum, too many of them live in football manager fantasy worlds.No-one but no-one seems to want to take into account how much all those "loans" last season cost us, how much Hone,Hoos,McMenemy,Dulieu,Wiseman et al were probably milking us for, whether it be in salaries or expenses or whatever. They only see players in and out as savings,the rest is just bumph to them. I'd wager that collectively the directors were milking us for well over a million a year. Probably down to about a quarter of that now. When you take a player on a year's loan you usually have to pay a fee, find him somewhere to live, pay for English lessons for the wife, get her some home help etc etc, all that costs a fortune. Bet the cost of Vignal alone was well over a million £ last season, all found that is,he played about 20 or so games I think,50K a game, not bad at all, money down the drain now but at least we've put a stop to all that; Mettomo, a few quid a week no doubt but with accomodation,travelling fees, a little dob for signing on ,probably cost about 150K for absolutely sod all.When you look at last years half yearly account player and coaches cost is a staggering 6.6 million, the players weren't on an average of 7K a week so a lot of money was going down the drain for odds and sods. That has been stopped.

We've probably tried, he's obviously not having any of it. If it was that easy even our board could manage it couldn't they? No player will take a wage cut in our day and age. Skacel wants "first class football". He wants us to give him away, no fee,no strings.We obviously aren't in agreement. We paid a lot of money for him, we want something back that's all.

Hey, that's my motor !!