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Not even a game, lots of things you can't do whilst smoking a fag but they don't pretend to be sports. When I'm out running, I'm a sportsman (cos I'm firkin fast,well according to Jimmy Saville's rule of thumb criteria anyway),when I'm arsing about down at the beach it's not a sport.Don't smoke anyway. Strange what people perceive as sports nowadays, snooker,darts and would you believe it-firkin poker, turned on Eurosport the other day-Poker,WTF. These are games, they require no great level of physical fitness to participate,skill yes,physical condition no. They'll be putting ballet in the next olympics if we don't buck our ideas up about what makes a sport,Archery,Pistol Shooting and Sailing -fook off.

I can see that you're probably right but I'm not so sure on the VAT front. They are particularily attentive to free articles or those sold below the "market value". When you import something from the States or the Gulf (or anywhere else outside the EEC) it has a "nominal value" for VAT . If you come to some jumped up arrangement with your supplier to invoice the goods under the "market value" you can get an assessed valued slapped on you for VAT purposes.I'm not saying this would be the case for football tickets but there was the old ""carrot and sofa "case. This was essential to contourn Sunday trading arrangements of course but the jist of it was that if you paid £200 for a carrot you got a free sofa.Now a carrot is zero rated, a sofa certainly isn't and the seller got hit for the VAT on the free sofa. The sunday loophole was also very quickly closed down.I am sure that HMC+E have rules governing the sale of tickets below an average price?they have similar rules for everything else.

Aha Upstairs Athletics, good to see you got lucky.:smt074

Cricket is a game.

The problem with all these schemes is how the VAT man sees them, for yer average VAT officer there's no such thing as a free ticket,not unless they all are anyway. Have we no HMC+E official to point us straight on this one??

Fag smoking pastime Phil, we have established that it's not a sport.;)

You have got to weigh up just what is the cost of letting in all those "supporters" virtually fee of charge.Now I know nothing of the regulations concerning police and steward presence per X number or supporters but I presume the management do.We have in the past given out free tickets to schools and such I believe,when and where I've no idea, I'm sure some-one has. Now those tickets would in theory have a negative cost, unless they all ate 3 pies and dranck 2 cokes each.When you have more people wanting stuff at HT you've to get more people in to serve them (I know that).Now it could be that many of our home games last season were buoyed up by freebies and cheapies,once again I've no idea on that. We paid our players far too much money with respect to our income, that's all I know. To sort the problem out that had to be tackled, it has been ,unfortunately the results leave to be desired as of yet,but then they did last season as well,at a disastrously high cost.

Ah right he's counting only Saint's supporters, a supporter being an entity that went to that particular match.Got the drift.

SF76talkingtomyselfallday.com would be a better title; I liked that forum at the start then it just got to be all bile and hatred from the same person on a continual basis. You could go 2 matchdays ithout geting a single football related post.

Aha Bitterne Park Rec of a Sunday afternoon.

sad to see you resorting to such drivel Phil to be honest. We're doing as well as can be expected. If you don't like the forum sign up to one of the free ones, they talk about Music(if you can call 1980's punk that),Crisp,Biscuits and very occasionally slag pompey off. It's not 14000 supporters it's 15000 as near as dammit. Lowe,Wilde and Cowan are probably here for the foreseeable future so get over . A lot of people passed the last week-end glued to that ridiculous game of Golf, ffs that's just a pastime for idle rich bastards..It's not even a sport, I always apply the rule of thumb to "games" that pretend to be "sports". If you can do it smoking a fag,it's not a sport.Everybody's crowds are going down, at least our management have realised this and cut our stupidly astronomic player salary costs. We have always had home-grown players in our side. Right now they need our support and understanding, not some-one slagging them off every 30 secs.I'm sure a lot of our young men read the forum so just cut them some slack eh!!!

Show Some Faith (for once in your lives) Bet Man U supporters are shiiting themselves eh, only 5 points from 4 games, sack Sir Alex,bring back everybody who's left in the past 10 years, it's all the boards fault et etc etc, not to mention Pompey who got shafted 6-0 today, Our team will get there, it's time they need. We have been awful before you know,just that some of you have short (or no) memories.

What even though he had no official role at the club? Strange statement.

As the old adage says,Actions speak louder than words.

But Kelvin Davies and Stern John play for us don't they? Can't be on a whole lot less than Skacel,they don't seem to have any problems turning out of a Saturday.The problem seems to be unique to Skacel for whatever reason, we were struggling to field a side today, can't see that he would have been voluntarily overlooked to save a couple of K honestly,it's far far deeper rooted than that ,IMO of course.

So in fact Surman has scored more goals than Skacel?::(

Fulthorpe should speak up now? To say what? who is this bloke,got any money has he?know anyone who has? people with real money buy clubs,usually with very little ado, people who don't have any just talk about it.

Out of interest how many has he scored for Saints, compared to say, Surman?

Eating loads of doughnuts is he?

I expect it's far far more complicated than we all think. He probably has a clause (they're all the rage) in his contract saying he doesn't have to play if the average age of the team is less than 23 or something.,or that he might get someone interested in him in the next 18 months.

We'll see how the land lies when we draw Arsenal, Man U or Chelsea at home in the Carling.

Yep back into the bottom 3.

One out of three ain't bad.

what, it's out of proportion, her tits are three times as big as her head.