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It depends. It depends on the scale of the problem, whether the benefits (reducing electoral fraud) outweigh the costs (deterring or preventing people from voting legally) due to the additional inconvenience or cost involved. That’s why having a sense of the extent of the problem and how well or badly the current system is working is critical. That’s why I asked my original question - now do you have an answer pal?

Can someone tell how many cases of electoral fraud related to registration there were in the last GE? I get the impression from dopey Duckhunter that it’s in the thousands or tens of thousands. Answers on a postcard.

LD having a proper mare - someone has to fill in for Les I suppose

To quote a forum sage, they (parties) all do it pal.

Agree

Same s**t that Vote Leave pulled in the referendum campaign when it repeatedly used the NHS logo without authorisation. Has Cummings and co. fingerprints all over it. I expect Mr Whatabout AKA Batman will be here soon to explain how “they all do it”.

John would vote for a turd with a rosette on it if it could parrot the lines “get Brexit done”, “Venezuela” and “Article XXIV”.

Get it done Goa

Same structural reason that populist politicians like Farage and Johnson -your boys- are riding high pal. Listening to experts is elitist and can’t be trusted - instead every chump is led to believe that they know best, they’re entitled to their own facts and they’re special. Frankly you’d be right at home in one of those audiences.

Boris is playing a blinder.

He’s no Alex McLeish, is he pal?

Per Peter Oborne who wrote the book on political lying. Calling Brett from Camden aka Batman to serve up his daily dish of whataboutery.

Keep up Jamie.

Section 21.27 “Whatever the origin of the initial fire, the evidence indicates that it was accidental. Mr Kebede in particular bears no blame for what occurred in his flat, much less for the catastrophic events that followed. On the contrary, he did exactly what a responsible person might be expected to do in the circumstances and his presence of mind in switching off the electricity as he left the flat enabled important evidence to be gathered about the origin of the fire”.

He knows the argument. At least, now, he does. He’s just embarrassed he soiled himself in public.

So just to recap: you assert that the EU fears the UK will become Singapore-on-Thames and thrive (never mind the EU couldn’t care less and is simply interested in safeguarding the integrity of the single market). Tesla comes along -precisely the type of business that the UK aka Singapore-on-Thames needs and wants to attract in order to thrive and chooses an EU country over the UK as a major base of operations and production, citing Brexit among other reasons. If that’s your definition of thriving, I bet the EU can’t bloody wait for the UK to leave the EU. The cleaner, the better. Always nice seeing you hoisted by your own petard Les - never stop posting on here pal. Never

In other words, you don't have a response to the points I made. Thanks for clarifying Les.

Not sure. I assumed the role is director of football - in which case there will be people working under him, specialising in the academy/youth and transfers/recruitment but ideally you’d want the DoF to have relevant knowledge and experience of both.

Crocker isn’t a bad shout but I’d like someone with relevant experience in the transfer market, preferably across Europe, not just the academy and developing homegrown talent.

You mean Sir Martin Moore-Bick who led the official Grenfell inquiry and has seen all the available evidence? #gamesetandmatch

You’re getting confused again. Perhaps you’re too dim to recognise that what you posted in your reply isn’t the same as what you originally posted. Clearly the EU is concerned about the UK becoming like Singapore-on-Thames (try telling Northern leave voters that’s what they voted for - pmsl), not because it fears the UK will thrive (it doesn't and won’t pal) but because it doesn’t want the UK’s regulatory choices -all those proverbial chlorinated chickens- leaking into the single market. In its view, the UK can do whatever it likes as long as it doesn’t compromise the EU’s regulatory autonomy and high standards. It appears the distinction is a bit too subtle for you. As for Musk, his decision to locate Tesla’s first European production plant in Germany rather than the UK, citing Brexit among other things, is clearly relevant pal. Even your dopey Singapore-on-Thames soundbite betrays it’s relevance and makes the point for me. What is Singapore-on-Thames other than the UK’s ambition to become a hub for global business, innovation and talent, powered by low taxes and light regulation? In other words, it is directed at precisely multi-billion dollar businesses like Tesla - indeed Boris Johnson has made a big song and dance (with funding to boot) about making the UK the home of new, innovative industries such as electric vehicles. So yes it’s relevant that Musk’s choice fell on ‘overregulated’ Germany rather than flexible Global Britain. All too easy as usual

The issue isn’t really about left or right pal. It’s between those in the centre, whether on the right or the left or perhaps more accurately those who believe in evidence-based policymaking and those who hold more emotive populist views. Populism afflicts both right and left but at this moment in time it is stronger on the right than on the left, at least in this country.

Jesus wept.

Should have told Elon Musk and Tesla that Les

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