shurlock

Time for Goa to step up.

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It’s perfectly reasonable to play the advantage and then go back and punish the foul.

Peter Oborne certainly thinks that Johnson and his team have taken the lies and fake news to new heights, aided and abetted by a venal and docile media. https://www.channel4.com/news/peter-oborne-downing-street-putting-out-fake-news I see Brett from Camden, Mr Whatabout, is still struggling to understand the meaning of a lie. If only his understanding of the English language was as strong as his culinary skills.

With the state of the Labour Party, it won’t surprise me if the Conservatives win a majority - of course, they don’t have a clue of the complexities involved in negotiating a FTA or understand what a simple FTA can achieve. The next 12 months will be another reality check as the silly mantra of get Brexit done comes back to bite them. Great shorting opportunities mind you.

Because if you look on social media and the comment pages of the Mail and Telegraph, there are many people like Les. This is not surprising: during the leadership contest, Rory Stewart repeatedly warned Johnson (and others) that a cast-iron promise to take us out by October 31 would simply not be credible because of Parliament. Yet Johnson dismissed this and persisted in his claim that we would be out do or die, no ifs or buts. No wonder that having raised expectations, some (though clearly not all) have chosen to hold him to his word.

Les doesn’t seem too pleased by Johnson.

Tell that to the sizable one-nation Tory wing of the party represented by the likes of Ken Clarke and Dominic Grieve. There are plenty of moderate, traditionally leaning Tories who have fallen out of love with the Conservative Party and its direction under Johnson (and what he represents). You might want to reassess your point.

For a deal he climbed down on just to make his little deadline

So Johnson basically gave the EU what it wanted, flouting his own earlier red lines just so he could get a deal done by October 31. And now it’s unlikely he’s even going to do that

You mean in attempting to pass the EU’s preferred deal? A deal that May and Johnson previously said that they could never accept since it was an existential threat to the Union. Seriously, take a break pal, politics isn’t your thing.

Don’t worry we got Stuart Armstrong for half the price instead.

As opposed to Johnson who's winging it and doesn't even know what's in his own deal? Which is far more disturbing.

And it was a misleading slogan, wilfully and disingenuously blurring gross and net figures. Just ask the head of the UK Statistics Authority. Anyway happy Brexit day everyone, not quite the freedom charter that swivels portrayed and likely the beginning of the end of the union. No doubt we’ll be here this time next year yet again on the brink of no deal and more political and economic uncertainty as the transition period runs out. Perhaps some of the more self-aware Brexiter sheep will be questioning their masters why Brexit isn’t done yet.

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Could have been the next Fergie according to some on here. #premature

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Leave aside your fatuous strawman (‘Now most on here would dismiss that by saying that everyone who votes that way are thick idiots’), people can be factually wrong (as you proved in your misunderstanding of how EU institutions work). That’s very different from having a common, objective set of facts and people simply drawing different conclusions from them. The former should always be robustly challenged and held to account; the latter is a reflection of our different preferences and priorities -and rightly need to be understood better. But simply celebrating difference for difference sake, however much it’s rooted in misperception, sounds awfully leftie and postmodern to me.

Not like it makes any difference but didn’t Ings initially miss Valery’s cross against Chelsea and it only went in after Zouma’s clearance deflected off Ings?

What’s ‘getting done’?

Just ignore it - the stunt will have zero practical effect. It’s just theatre for halfwits like GM who’ll chunter on about 4D chess or something.

Carney is the Governor of the BoE. It’s hardly a ringing endorsement pal. He ‘likes’ it only because it’s preferable to a disorderly no deal. Then again a s**t sandwich is preferable to no deal.

The article overlooks the fact that any extension would not only enable Parliament to scrutinise the deal but also provide opportunities for Parliament to amend the deal.

MPs were only informed about the specifics of the deal on Thursday (and have as yet not seen any of the implementing legislation). Indeed Johnson was pitching a different deal only a week ago. Two to three days is ridiculously short to scrutinise any act of Parliament - never mind arguably the most important piece of legislation in decades.

It’s in the Political Declaration. It’s a wish list, not a strict enforceable obligation. That’s all you need to know.