shurlock

A stocking filler banning alas.

Agree, we can cope with one in the team provided Boruc is in goal but both is a stretch even with Boruc - think Newcastle last season.

You're not really comparing like for like - 2 CBs vs a CB and a LB. Also Lovren and Fonte have largely played with Shaw and Boruc (and Vic). Would their stats look so good without one or all three of those players? The more interesting question is whether we could get away with an otherwise full strength defense/GK with either Jos or Fox (not both) in it. And which of the two is the lesser evil? IIRC, we just about managed against Swansea this season (with Fox in).

Sorry JWP and Chambers as fullbacks with Davis, Cork and Morgan in midfield.

JWP and Shaw as fullbacks, with Morgan, Davis and Cork in midfield. Would leave us very narrow but at least our best available players would be in the lineup.

You do it behind closed doors so that halfwits on a mongboard cant unpick it.

Were you born yesterday? Some dewy-eyed newcomer? Opposing views are fine and welcome, even if they have no factual basis (true of positive posts). The only proviso is that views are genuinely held (like yourself). There's a fundamental asymmetry on a mongboard where people support the same team. By definition, those who hold positive views do not set out to provoke or wind others up (or at least it's much harder to) whereas its much easier to get a reaction by being negative. And for some that becomes the raison d'être for participation on here. Which is to say that this has nothing to do with wanting the best for the club - rather it is the precise opposite- it is to manipulate people precisely because they know people on here care so much about their club. Thats just c**tish behaviour. So keep spouting your thousand flowers bloom or union dissent horse****, blind to this basic difference. You're not alone - the mods do the same.

Nobody's calling for us to go binge shopping in Jan - and ideally we would wait till the summer. Even if we don't see the best of someone until they're fully integrated, they will still be an improvement on what we have in defense. The gap in class is just too large.

Grow a pair and man up? ...You surely can't expect the rest of your post to be taken seriously?

Not so sure- his debut against Everton was a taster of his flaws and limitations but as they weren't gaffes per se, he was given the benefit of the doubt.

AL's going to Brazil.

So you think selling him -even for silly money £30m say- would be a betrayal of our principles? Hollow money?

Glasgow - who has custody for you this Xmas? Just want to make sure who you'll be logging as... Ta in advance.

No De Ridder looked like a world beater - this just makes Gazza look dodgy at near post who can hoof the ball a long way.

That has got to be the most unconvincing YouTube puff piece i've ever seen. Lost count of how many minutes it was before he made a save.

And the 2nd? Jos is one footed and impulsive but there's no way he would have gone for that cross if Boruc had been in goal. He would have trusted Boruc to come out and collect rather than having to take things into his own hands which is a recipe for disaster. You can say that Gazza, Jos etc bring out the worst in each others games.

Stubborn and deluded then. What do they say about history repeating itself - first as tragedy, then as farce?

I'll leave it there - you're obviously floundering.

Not at all, BS. Adkins chose not to play Boruc; MP has been forced not to play him. Pretty simple even for you

Not struggling - you seem to be the only one on here - having cornered yourself- that thinks NA handled our gk situation effectively.

Boruc had a ropey start against Arsenal IIRC but this time NA stuck with him because his decision to play Gazza and Davis for over a quarter of the season had backfired spectacularly. Would not have been surprised that if NA had stuck with him after the Wham and Spurs games, a player who had been playing in Serie A months before would have been able to knock off rust and regain match fitness in no time. As Boruc himself said, NA dealt with the whole situation very oddly. Keep teliing yourself mate that our performances, form, results are no different under MP than NA when both had the same players while forgeting the fact that MP is missing other players NA had available (Clyne) or chose not to play (Boruc). Point stands - you're comparing apples and pears and looking like bit of a plum.

So when Gazza was dropped, he turned to Davis rather than Boruc who demonstrated all his old frailties. It took 10 games -over a quarter of the season for NA to realise, after everything else had failed, that Boruc was no.1. Whereas NA chose not to play Boruc, MP is forced not to play him. But, of course, that's just a trivial detail. The two managers selection options are like for like. Keep up sunshine

Sticking with a player (or players) for several months when it is clear that they are not up to it is the definition of stubborness, regardless whether they belatedly realise the error of their ways. That just shows how ******* misguided they were.

Dear oh dear. It took NA how many months to realise that Boruc was our no.1 keeper??? And only then when all of NA's preferred alternatives had failed, even though it was blindingly obvious to the rest of us. How many points did it cost us? Whereas NA played Gazzanigga out of choice, MP is playing him out of necessity. Having bit of a mare, aren't you? And btw I said NA stubbornly stuck with Gazzanigga.

Yes after KD's performances against Fulham and Stoke (where he reminded everyone of his inability to command his 6 yard box). Boruc finally got in and hey presto, results began to pick up. Looks like NA's not the only slow learner...