shurlock

Them playing 4-4-2 certainly helped us break with numbers. Overall very satisfied - hopefully a combination of JWP, Cork and Davis can do the biz in Morgan's abence and Lovren is back to take on Lukaku.

You were behaving yourself on the match thread - dont go and ruin it now.

Think we're still good for another goal

Yep, esp with Grobs on the take and Ronny R bagging a hattrick Very much resistible force meeting a movable object.

http://lag10.com/channel8 Virtually no delay

The 2-2 vs boro and 2-3 vs villa are sickeners.

well done yoshi - good recovery

Get to HT

3 shots on target 3 goals - getting the rub of the green

Dont like how he goes with his other hand - delays his reaction.

Get a grip yoshida

We're discussing the extent to which players from smaller clubs can make the step up to the largest ones. The suggestion is that the 'successful' moves identified involved moves to clubs that while bigger were not as big as suggested which made the step-up easier. Perhaps the many failures gives a player food for thought if they think they're going to rot away on the bench. Perhaps it doesn't. Perhaps it raises the attractiveness of moves to clubs which are big in relative terms but not absolute ones where failures are most commonplace. In the majority of cases, money and honours, however vicarious, talk and sh*t walks. But not all the time. It certainly didn't hurt us when Clyne chose us over united or other 'bigger' clubs. Would Lallana who has probably reached his peak and has half a season of excellent form behind him decide differently? Its open for discussion - hence why mongboards exist.

Chelsea were knocking on the doors when Lampard joined but they weren't in the inner circle a la United today. Perhaps Spurs is a slightly better analogy than Everton given their greater willingness to spend. Either way, Lampard was fortunate in that he was able to grow with Chelsea and was established when Abramovich allowed them to buy who they liked and the expectation was that they would not only be going for titles but defending them.

He is an Arsenal type player because shock and behold United play with pace down their wings and tend to have quite a rigid shape - not sure the suggestion is that he is Arsenal quality, though. If he was, he'd certainly be good enough for united. But given where united are, agree they need to set their sights higher.

Before the Abramovich era which took them to a level nobody could have predicted when Lampard joined. They would have arguably stayed outside the elite without that money.

Not sure where you read about him being a fit for Arsenal but there are a couple of references to Spurs and for that reason many think he'd be better staying put because we're essentially at the same level Many think he's flourishing where he's at a la Young and wouldn't get the same chances to express himself at United. All which would make someone pause for thought, notwithstanding the massive draw of a potential move.

Chelsea were a top 6-8 side when Lampard went so not quite a top top side coming up off multiple league titles - akin to Lallana going to an Everton.

Probably as much to do with the fact that the bigger clubs no longer buy (if they did) from the lower leagues.

Love how many are quick to dismiss him and believe he would be better off staying put http://www.redcafe.net/threads/adam-lallana.361862/page-3

Will only believe you when Glasgow endorses it Btw what sources get past the st charlie bull****ometer?

Merry Xmas to you as well. Hope Santa's got you a nice big shovel and hose to pick up and wash down all the horse**** you spout. xxx

Coz he's named said individual, gone into gory detail presumably against their wishes, leaving them out to dry. Nobody battered an eyelid when it was disclosed that Punch was having off the field problems. Try harder you clown.

Vincent Tan's call for more long range shooting could be damn well inspired.