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No big transfers pending but with decent crowds for League Two and the opportunity to borrow the PP money they can push the boat out a bit on wages. Not that they would, with creditors still waiting. After all they are sticklers for clearing debt before going on mad spending sprees. I'm still not convinced that the eagle eye of the Football League overseeing their every move will be any more effective than it was last time, so I fully expect to see a promotion push fuelled by the odd unusual signing. But I'm more interested in our game today that is worth a few quid and a lot of pride - but compared with the last two years, it has absolutely zero riding on it, which suits me fine. But it must be a bitter blow for all those fans of Redknapp, and the many people to the east who assured us we would be finishing with the lowest points total ever, and even this week informed everyone that we were a club in crisis and massive debt, with no one at the helm, and no future. Mind the gap.

just when you start to feel sorry for them they start churning out myths again. Yes we are in it up to our eyeballs, the Nazi gold is nearly all gone - spent on shady loans and dodgy heroin that we use to turn kittens into addicts - we are doomed, it's over, we are very jealous indeed. Come on Lord T, as the keeper of the PTS thread flame it's your role to chuck on another jerry can of 4 star, not some dentally-challenged, sister-bothering, bouncy castle executive with a shoe size higher than his IQ. All that and Wickham Fair around the corner, it's a busy time for myth-spreaders. Silly season here we come.

As Lord T says, it is so predictable. True-blue England keeper in waiting becomes greedy useless journeyman at the drop of a fatty tap. The bloke has presumably been offered way more money, two divisions higher, doesn't have to train out of his car boot, and the funniest bit of all is that he regards Blackburn's chicken-bothering owners as businessmen with more realistic plans for the future! But plucky pompey shedding that bit of deadwood leaves the way open for David James to return and show them what a formerly dodgy keeper looks like when he is approaching fifty. Bring back the heroes! Kanu, Campbell, Ben Haim, Rocha - they all earned a fortune*, now they can give something back! Those guys will revel in the silky-skilled, one-touch-world of League Two on a freezing December evening when the pitch is modelled on a cow field - it must be the way forward for the biggest club outside of London. *might earn a fraction of their fortune, should the PFA ever manage to drag it away from the Trust.

spin alert... Tom’s contract was up and with him being 26, he felt it was time to move on. Well Guy me old matey, he probably 'chose to move on' because his contract wasn't renewed. It would have been undignified to stay on until the police were called.

pompey will sell a few season tickets as many people now believe that they own a share of this company - a club that has no debt, has shrugged off Portpin, and is the biggest outside of the Prem. That's the version that is being sold to them by the media partners to boost interest, and it's worked. As in previous summers, once the season ticket money is banked, the truth can slowly emerge - as long as they can keep a lid on the little clues, like being less attractive to players than Fleetwood. The few also claim that pompey will be ripping up League Two. Perhaps we'll just wait and see how excited they are come October.

when I saw the thread title I expected some unsavoury tabloid story.

don't worry about Mack, he's normally off his face on Nesquik and floor polish by the time Deal or No Deal finishes. Yes their new man is making all the correct noises about budgets, it's just that we've heard similar pledges in the past from the likes of Lampitt who preached about watching the pennies and paying down debt, while running around a Ferrari dealership shouting 'I want, I want' and throwing rolls of cash into the air that were so thick they could choke a Horton Heath personal fitness trainer. If there's a way to creep around the new restrictions, they'll find it. So I'll wait to see how their transfer policy actually develops before buying into the new lean mean business hype.

yep, I 4-1 am. I'm especially jealous of the gobby ones who tried to distract from their own club's appalling season and assured me that Redknapp would turn QPR around and relegate us. Wonder how that little plan worked out. At least the great pompey hero learned from his previous mistakes, bought sensibly, and didn't do special deals with agent friends that would saddle his club with overpaid deadwood and lead directly to Insolvency Central. Summary of the season - pompey sink into the bottom tier, we stay up, Redknapp relegated, and when you analyse the reality of it, between the minor peaks his managerial CV looks like a car crash... I also enjoyed Ben Haim failing miserably, and Jamie O'Hara leading Wolves out of the championship. Nice little touch to see Nugent do so well today as well. We just need to see the great hero Rocha price himself out of bargain basement football and that will tick another box. You have to make the most of it when football's great.

indeed, old pikey boy will move directly from the defensive rock that next year's team should be built around to greedy moneygrabbing hedgehog-eater who had no pace. Tis the pompey way.

pompey player offers realistic view of future shock!... One thing I do know is it’s not going to be easy in League Two next season. Anyone who thinks it will be straight-forward to bounce back is going to be in for a surprise. Shaun Cooper must be a scummah for offering such nonesense. Or is he worried that the games will be too big for the refs and that every side will regard a trip to the packed fortress as their cup final? Yes that must be it, pompey are too big for the league and as a result have generated the best expectation in world football. I recall reminding myself when we were playing the likes of Dagenham that we were in that league on merit and should be wary of looking down on anyone who has earned the right to play at the same level. Rochdale gave us a lesson in humility, perhaps Newport and friends will offer a few similar lessons down the road, but I doubt that they'll be taken on board by a club that ignores reality and claims to have the best atmosphere in THE WORLD.

The battling PR machine is up and running again, peddling simple messages to the deluded and hard of thought. Guy Whittingham says Pompey can fight fire with fire as Premier League big guns move in on their territory. The Blues boss reckons his club can more than match the likes of Chelsea who are aiming to poach their young talent. I suspect they will in reality be fighting fire with a petrol-soaked newspaper. But it's always nice to hear a shrill rallying cry that suggests a League Two club has more to offer than the Champions of Europe when it comes to signing a young player deemed good enough to one day play in the top flight. When the first team stops training out of their car boots and they can afford some cones, perhaps they can convince the next youngster's parents that they still have that youth set up that they formerly boasted was 'the envy of the rest of the country'. Methinks an extinct football dinosaur is still trying to bark like a big animal. Squeak, squeak.

the fit and proper person test was a last resort check for clubs who were incapable of making sensible decisions on who they get into bed with. The few bang on about that aspect as if the football authorities imposed loan sharks, organised crime, people who didn't exist and fantasists upon them. The league didn't pick these owners, they were all chosen as partners by the club. But no - it has to be someone else's fault. As for Guy's little outburst - the idea was you play the kids and stop spending money, not fill your squad with £5K a week journeymen and leave the kids out in the cold. And this from a club who bent those rules by loaning out players to bring in new ones... I'm sure the league will welcome advice from people like that. The PFA will just demand security for whatever is owed as they can see it never happening, and previously I think they only had the football creditor rule to help them (?) - would this be a more aggressive stance?.

Please please please tell me that Portpin are one of the new charges securing future payments!! And Tweeting Lord Palmerston scrapes another barrel until the bottom is more transparent than his own club's shaky business plans. Yes of course Mythmaster General, all Saints fans leave their council-owned flatpack at halftime, boo their own team, are made up mainly of asylum seekers and the jobless with free tickets, worship an SS tank commander, and are bitterly jealous of their mighty neighbours. And all of that is key when the rugby authorities choose their venues - they care not a jot about transport links, hotels, proximity to international airports, capacities or costs, they just want to know if the usual occupants of a venue are plucky and bestest, or not.

Had you asked me a couple of years ago I would have said that he was a broadcasting legend, now he's just a sad old sex offender. Betrayed his public. Disgusted. And I hope we don't hear the old, 'I didn't do anything wrong, but it's easier to plead guilty to avoid a trial' nonesense. NO ONE would confess to fiddling with a nine-year-old just to avoid a trial, if innocent you'd fight that charge to your dying day. As for his family, is it possible to drag them any deeper through a sewer of shame?

Avram, what a legend. He took them to a new level, then he buggered off when it suited, as they always do. And I hear a very strong rumour that he was back in touch recently, looking for a glorious homecoming - or a happy ending as he'd call it. He presumably heard Guy say that they were looking to splash out on a young Latvian* On an unrelated matter, I still can't believe that pompey fans were happy for their hard-earned season ticket money to be spent on a car and a driver to take an old perv prossie-bothering - there was not a single complaint. Astonishing. Anyway, here's the new business, fully funded, debt-free, and ready for action!... But not trusted by credit card companies, so please pay cash, and as soon as possible as cashflow could cripple us within a month. *great to see that old joke back, it must be a year since it had an outing - the same as little Avram.

The takeover will complete when they pay the CVA and accompanying agreements. I believe the last of those is due at the end of 2018. This thread has survived quiet periods and previous 'takeovers' as none completed successfully. As for congratulating all pompey fans, many on here have spoken positively about the enthusiasm of Trust members, but any poster who feels that this isn't sufficient and wants to offer further blessings is welcome to start their own new thread, I'm sure it will rival this one in no time at all. My own contribution to that particular campaign would be yes, they've done really well - they have borrowed money, lots of it. Quite an achievement. Well done. Yes, they have taken on two big loans, nice. That is certainly a trailblazing blueprint for the world game. IF however they pay it all back and complete the takeover agreement, they will richly deserve 100% congratulations. But in the meantime I'll offer them .4% congratulations over five years, less expenses.

I'm just chuffed with my promotion from Nutjob to pathetic Nutjob! I was starting to worry that this thread had a glass ceiling and that there was no career path, but with this latest step up the ladder into middle-management I can now dream about joining the bitter and twisted Nutjobs on the top floor. I hear that they get their own parking spaces and exclusive use of the thread toilet.

that looks to me like he bottled the ground-ownership gig and decided to be a money lender instead. He owns next door so he controls all future development - the same tool the child-maimer used to control the club's plans. So I believe the Trust owns the ground, but it was financed by large loans from Robinson and the council - thus making pompey fully fan-owned, as technically the fans borrowed the money. I'm just not quite sure where the debt-free claim came from, as that is plainly fantasy and spin. If my understanding is correct then they have gone from being in debt to a man who lends money when others won't, to being in debt to a man who lends money when others won't, and the council.

We knew that the fresh debts would require security but it's a bit daunting to see in black and white that the council and a finance company now have full control of everything that pompey own. They just need to miss a payment and we're back to square one. Presumably the dream scenario for the property developing finance company is to go without a payment and to take the lard-riddled ground off them. It's like life insurance, it's always dangerous to be in the position where your partners are better off without you. So my business tip to pompey would be, don't fall out with Robinson or his backers.

A sad loss - but a man who achieved what many only dream of, will always be remembered fondly. He pulled on a Saints shirt, wore it with pride, and scored a goal at Wembley. Our thoughts are with his family and friends.

you might be right View but I just don't see them accepting lower league football on a budget. Too many times in recent years I've thought 'at last, now they'll have to live within their means', only to be caught out by a dodgy move such as the fantasy false accounts that were presented to the high court allowing them to strengthen their squad for the cup run, or the loaning out of players to dodge the 20 man squad rule, or having no real CVA, but announcing one that wouldn't be paid, just to reduce penalties....etc After you see stunts like that pulled, and they eventually end up with a punishment that just makes them slightly more relegated than they already were, you suspect that they will ignore creditors, wriggle out of the FL restrictions and continue to live beyond their means. Having the PPs earmarked but not ringfenced means that they can use them all up, and not worry about the debts. Though I see that the south's leading investigative journalist is now best-placed to expose anything like that, and he's good at telling everyone the truth about dodgy owners. Maybe not so much a case of jobs for the boys but an undercover assignement? To quote KK, I would love it, absolutely love it...if they traded solvently and accepted life at the bottom of League Two. But I don't believe they will. There'll be a little spending spree on the horizon, dressed up as a frees on the lowest wages, paying their own camping fees and dining on local rodents. Then we'll have the overseas tour, sold to the few as paid for by someone else. Until the accounts emerge. History suggests this will happen - or am I just a jealous Nutjob, who through living on the frontline views our mighty neighbours through red mist?

But Wimbledon don't have the option to borrow the football creditor money and use it to build a team... There's no way pompey will pay that off, it'll be delayed as they spend the PPs on new players - if they do pay those debts instead, I'll present Steve Grant with a fiver in front of St Mary's.

So much for Chanrai being history - we now discover that he has a quarter of a million 'add-ons' tied up in the new business, and will take his last money from the club in five years time. Should those modest payments not appear on the day that they are due he will no doubt claim whatever security arrangements he requested in the agreement - a bit like he did last time, and that went really well for the club. Looking at some of the projections, I'm not sure it'll be the Trust that he's chasing when those payments are missed. And what's the likelihood of the great heroes like Kanu and Norris EVER getting their money? I see no reason why pompey will pay it. The authorities have proved to be toothless, the football creditor rule hasn't led to payment, it's just led to the debts being written down as IOUs that they never intend to honour. The only way the football debt will be paid is through redirecting the PPs. It's like CVA1 that's been dead for years, but only failed last week. The football debt isn't unpaid, it just hasn't been paid yet. It's still on some imaginary list to be paid, which to the FA and FL, makes it okay. They are gullible. The PFA need to jump up and down a bit, because the plonkers in blazers have clearly given up trying to police financial doping.

interesting Hutch, I was looking at projections too. Being generous and thinking they would come in cheap on the season tickets and cash in on the feelgood factor, I was thinking of their annual income nearer £4M, and a bargain basement wagebill of £1M. I reckon they need to average 15,000+ to stand still. Possible with a promotion push, but that's not easy with a squad that earns £1M. A promotion effort could require some players on £3k a week? - maybe an average of £2k. To put that into context, that would give you a playing wagebill of close to £3M... By doing the maths in pompey style, back-of-envelope, I think that in reality they need to have a wagecap of maybe £750 a week. Even after the great cull, one or two of their current stars must be on at least £2,500. So any future signings that raise your eyebrows are likely to take their budget into Championship levels, but this time there's no spare parachute payments or Plan B. Unless they do what Birch did last year, spend money that they know is spoken for in twelve months time... Their problem on day one of this thread was a need for new cash - not loans, real money that they could use to rebuild. 1771 pages later, that problem remains exactly the same. This latest new era appears to be built on loans and debt. Tis the pompey way mush. I fully expect to see the PPs being used to pay new wages to fund a plucky promotion warchest, and football debt to be delayed. Forever.