rallyboy

bombshell alert....... I've discussed the pompey situation with Mr Storrie quite recently. It did dawn on me at the time that if he knew some of the stuff I'd written on here he might be unimpressed! His main point was that the squad they have was good enough to overcome the points penalty, perhaps suggesting that the motivation of management or players was flawed. I didn't ask for financial advice. For the record, I've never met Avram Grant, and wouldn't be able to keep a straight face if I did.

I 4-1 am pleased to see that the glorious cup-run heroes of more than two years ago still haven't been paid. You lie to the football authorities, you present a false set of accounts to gain a sporting advantage, you criminally assemble a squad for a cup run by buying out contracts in an underhand manner, you beat a third tier side 4-1 and gob off about it for ages....and it turns out that you didn't even bother to pay your own fricking players! So current situation is - no income to run the club, season ticket money likely to be used up before a ball is kicked, wages gobbling up the parachutes at an alarming rate... Chances of Chinny getting his £18M back? Zero. Chances of Trust outbidding him? Zero. Level of respect I have for them as a football club on a scale of one to one hundred? Zero. What they've done is quite simple - deliberate and prolonged cheating. Judgement Day must be approaching.

one paragraph?....the league are toothless, Chinny has made an insulting CVA offer that reduces some £10K debt to about £30 and repeated his failed promise to pay small creditors, the Trust are struggling, no players have left so no one will buy anyway - the corpse stumbles on - but the plucky bestest have topped the 72-strong table for fans naive enough to give free advertising to a utility provider on social media, a victory for park-packers everywhere! In other news - several posters suggested it isn't fair that they should get away with blatant cheating and insolvent trading, the figures don't stack up, and I did another gag about Avram and prossies.

no surprises there - wooly promises of vague amounts that will never appear because the players won't take pay cuts. Looks like Chinny trying to buy the club for nowt and write off all debt. The big competition win is the funnier one. Am I right in thinking that while the Trust were desperately trying to raise several million quid to mount a serious challenge to Chanrai, the few spent all their waking hours promoting the UK's leading supplier of gas and electricity via social media, on the offchance of winning £30K towards administration costs? Shall we get behind the Trust or shall we promote a utility company? By topping the 72-strong table the bestest and pluckiest have certainly demonstrated their passion and committment - to naivety. It's like rolling up at an earthquake aftermath with a dustpan and brush. They still don't get it.

thanks mate, I got as far as you're aving a larf moosh before I felt too sick to continue - you only linked that to stir me up into a feisty rant. It was good to see Moosh again though, he's a minor star from the whole escapade, alongside motability scooter woman. As a prossie-bothering gravedigger once growled, You can rewrite history but you can never take our woman on the little scooter! I still find it staggering that they worship a dirty old man who got them relegated - he dragged the feckers out of the big time forever, then abandoned ship and immediately announced that West Ham had the bestest fans, before getting them relegated, proving beyond reasonable doubt that his shambolic pompey debacle wasn't a fluke! Cotterill was the next hero, that coaching genius kept up the plucky bestest bargain basement squad against all the odd at Fortress fratton, when the refs had all got secret emails to give decisions against the sleeping giant - and they'll deny it now but they loved Lampitt too. Bizarre behaviour - an inability to recognise good from bad, or see beyond spin. Churn out sh!t and they lap it up. What an odd bunch, makes it difficult to have sympathy when it all goes a bit Chinny.

whatever the detail of the CVA offer the creditors might as well just bend over behind a skip at Horton Heath and wait for Avram to shuffle up close with his club tracksuit trousers around his bony little ankles - the whole process will be just as degrading and unpleasant. Sadly I see CVA1 being shoe-horned into CVA2 which could then be forced through. That could mean that CVA1 hasn't technically failed, as the dim creditors will have approved the changes?... But on a cheerier note, this is all irrelevant if Birch cannot meet Chanrai's offer conditions - the wagebill has to plummet, players have to leave Without that his CVA offer is in trouble before it even gets voted on.

in the first year (!) this thread became the best online site for ANY pompey takeover developments. you're right KenT - I would always come here first to find out what was happening as nutjobs are famed for their investigative skills, if anything breaks anywhere in the world, someone would be on it. Remember how it took three minutes to suss out CSI, ditto Al Faraj and Al Fahim? That's what makes Lampitt's excuses so funny, he 'couldn't see it coming'. And I've taken great delight in letting my skate mates know any breaking news. One of them is vaguely involved with the Trust so I particularly like giving him bad news before the Trust know it. I keep explaining that they are wasting their time, he keeps denying it, I keep producing evidence. Nothing as funny as telling them they've missed their wages before they know they have! I'm sure some skates come on here to find out what is really going on rather than lapping up the spin offered to the east. This is now a specialist international news portal manned 24-7 by highly-qualified nutjobs - which means it also serves the community by occupying nutjobs - when this thread closes we'll be back on the streets... :0

this current silence must crank up the pressure on Birch. Trev me old mate, what exactly is going on? Pretending to look like a solvent business by trying to sell season tickets and doing U-Turns on transfer policy makes it look all a bit shambolic OFFLOAD PLAYERS! Tis the only way, and as you obviously can't, start shouting at people to wake them up to the situation. Sitting quietly and hoping it goes away while running up more debt and your own fee, is not a great policy. I reckon his masterplan at the moment is to survive this week without answering questions, and then he can hide behind Euro 2012.

The silence of the FL is deafening. No statement, no action, no comment at all on the situation...they can't ALL be too busy getting drunk in the street with neighbours they don't like and will ignore for the next sixty years.

that means the firesale is over and the amount raised by transfers from now on will be zero - thus reducing the assets of the company. Not that it makes a blind bit of difference if no one can get their wages matched by another club. I'm not even sure if they have any assets now....the ground is secured, the players can walk away without a fee - the business owns nothing and is slightly more insolvent today than it was yesterday. Yet the league seem happy for them to continue..... How can they start another season??

they're obviously at a stalemate and have as predicted, ground to a halt over the wagebill. Put yourself in Ben Haim's position. You've been kind enough to defer wages yet you're still owed loads, you've also been made out as the villain, and you still have a year of guaranteed future income that they want to thieve off you. But the club was GIVEN money by the Premier League to cover these costs - shedloads of it. If the club has spent that on other stuff, why is it the player's fault? He has every right to stand his ground, so I don't expect to see any ripping up of contracts - this also goes for Kanu who was a hero one minute and is then being described as a greedy moneygrabbing ba$tard the next. The only way to break the stalemate may be to draw up new contracts. Ben Haim is released, byebye! - but the next parachute payment gives him a lump sum, ditto the next one - as the old expression goes, he will get all of his money, mush. The minor problem with this would be that the parachute payments don't cover all the contracts, and there is a small queue of secured creditors with first shout on the remaining £4M-£7M.... If they get liquidated Ben Haim will still get paid for central PFA or league funds, he is more secure than Chanrai - for that reason alone Birch cannot threaten him with anything, other than a visit from CSI. His blinged-up, over-chromed Range Rover might less look cool with 100 jagged holes in the driver's door. But to get this business at least looking like it's solvent, Birch has got to pull a humpback whale out of a hat.

they can't afford the wages, they can't offload players, and they can't sign new ones. Unlike before they can't afford to buy out contracts and pretend the players were free agents. If Chanrai agreed a 'deal' tomorrow it would take six weeks. If they have a next season I think it's already damaged - Appy will be starting pre-season in four weeks with half a team, and we've seen in the past how a disruptive pre-season is difficult to shake off. They are limping. Sounds like Birch may have squeezed the players and the wages are now about £600K a month with maybe a further £300k deferred? - and the tax ignored, ditto image rights. Income for May-July from the league is less than £350K. Their wagebill is five times that of Doncaster, maybe six times the League One average. That must be quite a letter that Birch has sent to Portugal, I'm amazed he hasn't attended to fight their corner. It will have to be the most persuasive bit of A4 since Hitler convinced us that the shed behind him full of Panzers with a forty-foot-high skull logo on the door was actually a sewing machine factory.

and let's not forget that any unsustainable signing they made wasn't an unfortunate misjudgement, these signings were completed to beat off competition from other clubs. They outbid rivals to prevent them from getting players. They paid over the top to gain a sporting advantage. Signings like Ben Haim were not unfortunate errors, there was a deliberate policy to gain an advantage in an underhand way, a form of cheating that could have been put down as a mistake, until it was repeated. And that's why they deserve punishment not sympathy. Poor plucky pompey with their greedy players is actually greedy underhand pompey trying to get Bristol City or Millwall relegated instead by giving contracts they could never pay. Any fan who cheered Norris, Kitson, Lawrence or Varney and didn't question the funding has to take it on the chin. The carcass wasn't savaged by the nasty league or the world recession, it was self-harming all along.

pompey in transfer policy U-turn shock!...how about this bombshell from financial guru Appy... You have to be realistic, we have a budget which I am sticking to. Finally, after years of painstaking investigation through the debris of two administrations, someone has spotted where it all went wrong. Appy and his shrewd team of scientists from the University of Insolvency have discovered that pompey....spent more than they earned... This startling confession should be enough to satisfy the league that the leopard has changed it's spots and that all fixtures can be completed - the future looks rosy. No, not the manky jetsetting tax-avoiding mongrel that sh!t on the beach.

should the fans accept some blame? Mandaric - paid over the odds on wages to get the club out of the championship, promised a new stadium but knocked down one shed, abandoned ship at first opportunity - made money from pompey. Child-maimer - pretended he wasn't the owner, paid crazy wages to win the cup, promised a new stadium, didn't sell enough landmines and legged it. Storrie - gave out ridiculous contracts, oversaw the biggest train crash in football history, thought the Harbourdome was a good idea, approved several dodgy owners, did quite nicely thank you. Al Fahim - self promoted, spouted rubbish, looked silly, achieved zero. Al Faraj - failed to exist - so fairly blameless in the scheme of things. Redknapp - paid out crazy wages, signed an unusually high number of players, made a fortune from pompey and abandoned them, twice. Grant - was paid a huge amount to halt the decline but instead ran around the wreckage of the train crash shooting survivors, made an awful speech, dragged the club out of the big time forvever, and laid the foundations for a second relegation. Cotterill - paid crazy wages, launched a suicidal transfer policy, was shown up as a poor coach, got very well paid and abandoned ship. Chanrai - lent money to a desperate client, kept the patient on a life support for his own personal gain, has no interest in football let alone pompey. Antonov - paid crazy wages, used 'borrowed' money to fund shortfall, did terminal cashflow damage to the business. Lampitt - paid crazy wages, took crazy wages, failed to address obvious insolvency, sanctioned a suicidal transfer policy, was shown up as a VERY poor CEO, directed the club towards League One. Appleton - decided to join a train crash, failed to motivate players, managed to lead one of the highest paid team's straight out of the Championship at the first attempt. And what do these characters have in common?.... At one time or other they have ALL been heralded as heroes by the park-packing, plucky bestest fratton few... With the spin and a vague grasp of reality these guys have all been lorded as true blue greats or club saviours, yet the majority have been quite poor in their roles, have taken a fortune out of the club, and have moved on without looking back - unless they needed more cash out of the carcass. Legends indeed. And that's one reason to have little sympathy with people who can't tell the difference between a relegation-loving prossie-botherer, a money-laundering crook, or a perfectly respectable businessman. Appy is the only one still waiting for the actual facts to emerge, the new fixture list might be the catalyst for his status to change from hero to average coach. if he is so good, how come we're playing Hartlepool, Crawley and Stevenage?...

not sure why they should be upset by this thread, it's basically just a news portal.....with a dash of ruthless satire...and the occasional undercurrent of irrational hatred. Any decent developments have been on here before local press, you get a reality check behind the spin, and if my club was in their position the last thing I'd want to do is seek out a rival forum to see how much fun they were having, so any pompey fans who come on here must be half bonkers. Sorry Mack and one or two exceptions - though I think Mack knows he's bonkers anyway. Let's not forget that there was a strong fan lobby that the latest charity theft was the fault of the News for reporting it, not the club for the actual thieving. It's the truth they don't like, not the messengers.

They translate that Birch statement into we have been assured that there will never be a further penalty. This spin also drives the Trust, there may be investors worried about a further relegation, this satisifies them. If a penalty is imposed later it now means the nasty FL have lied, gone back on their word, and plucky little pompey will have to plead once again for a level playing field. This vague and selective knowledge of the facts leaves people comfortable with life - they ignore the cheating, gloss over the theft, but remember with great clarity the cup, and the 4-1. I bet there are very few few who realise the gravity of the situation this week - ignorance is bliss, this latest spin from Birch is nothing more than a little pikey comfort blanket.

more worryingly..... I have read every one of 1,266 pages. I've commented way too often. I've spent far too long composing some of those posts. In total I must have lost a full couple of months of my life. And now you fricking tell me we are only halfway???? Die skates die, asap.

the league must have so many basket case clubs under their jurisdiction that pompey is just the most disturbed nutter in a busy asylum. I can't see them getting chucked out....unless Birch goes to the meeting and actually admits that it's over, that the club is insolvent and that there is no funding - I think it would have to be a suicide rather than an execution. He's more likely to talk about deals in pipelines and vague offers of finance - that should be enough for the league to give them free rein to do whatever they want. In the cold light of day we have to accept that the league have to let them carry on if there is any indication that they can complete the season. Experience indicates that a few muttered half-promises from a loan shark with an appalling track record will satisfy them. Presumably Birch has one eye fixed firmly on the Parachute Payments, they are the only way he can avoid being responsible for the current losses. If their dwindling attraction can keep the club 'solvent' for a few months and he can offload to Chanrai then he's happy and can walk away. The club survives, Birch escapes, Chinny does his thing, the money runs out, they limp on, everyone's appy.

this is the big week, a few days left to convince the FL that the club is viable and has any future. Deals MUST be done, players offloaded, funding secured, realistic financial forecasts set in stone. Birch has a massive job to pull all that together before facing the FL - he must be jetsetting between meetings with Chanrai and the Trust, while constantly fielding transfer negotiation calls. Yet....I get the impression that he's sat in his garden reading a book, and if the clock that used to tick was still working, it would be deafening right now. And the few who keep telling us they are the passionate and most bestest the world has ever seen and smelt, seem to be sitting quietly, watching it all slip away without a whimper.... Why so quiet?

latest rumour is that the Minghella family have put up half a million. Their lolly will cover the wages for a fortnight then - can't see that sending a ripple through Chinny's world. If true, I guess the Trust must now have pledges of £2M tops. They're going to have to pitch a pretty spectacular script to impress the FL. Truly, Madly, Pikey.

are you bedwetting nutjobs still banging on about pompey? I've got about six pompey fans living within 50metres of me and I didn't mind hearing their arrogant deluded sh1t for the last seven years, so why should you people?...they laughed at us and told me they were going to dominate football for years and Saints were finished - so what, it's not like I need to revisit those conversations and have a war crimes tribunal and shoot some prisoners. The last thing I would want to do is seek vengeance on those that thought it was hilarious when we hit rock bottom. Those minus 10 in Scumland tee-shirts, they still make me chuckle now...and those Nazi stories - great banter, happy days. And as well as this thread, stop singing songs about them, it isn't like they abused Ted's memory in front of his family, made up myths about our owner, or chucked coins from the South Stand at fortress fratton. The club they worshipped hasn't tipped terminally-ill kids out of wheelchairs and shaken coins out of their pockets, they've just been unlucky - they haven't taken money out of the poppy appeal, ripped cash from veteran's fingers and given it to heroic plucky players on £50K a week - that would be bonkers. And I don't mind being insulted by toothless, sister-bothering, sticky-fingered crackhead pikeys just because of my Saints shirt - so why are you all obsessed? Some of you nutters act like their club has deliberately misled the courts and football authorities to gain a sporting advantage. I'd understand this thread dragging on if they'd stolen money from taxpayers and used it to drive their hero manager to Horton Heath so he could **** prostitutes - but they have just been unfortunate vicitms. It was the world recession you know - so let it go, you toast-eating nutjobs. They've managed to keep their loyal playing squad together, they have a new owner ready to complete - looking at that great set-up they must be favourites to get out of League One at the first attempt. This story is over! - I can't see any potential for future comedy at their expense, so let's just shut the thread.

it's very clear that whatever happens in the HMRC court case, the FL and FA will make sure that every football creditor gets every penny. That could be done through hefty penalties for non-compliance, or pompey's debt returning to original levels. If the authorities didn't tackle a law change, half the clubs in the league would go into admin by lunchtime and the market would collapse. You could buy Messi for £100M, put down a tenner and ignore the payments. If the court sensibly says that football creditors shouldn't have first shout, the football authorities will act, and if you have to pay everyone the same rate it might be small creditors that benefit rather than football clubs losing out. A new ruling is not the answer to their many problems. Nor is the Trust. Surprised it's so quiet as they are heading for oblivion - only the naivety of the league approving a fantasy financial forecast is going to save them.

Nice trip down memory lane, you forget how long this sitcom has been running - how's the thread book going? Was it Crab who volunteered for that, shouldn't take too long to edit?.... Just when I thought Barbie Boy only spouted insane gibberish that a deluded simpleton chimp would lap up, I have to admit, he was half right on one thing. two supermarket chains want to be involved, one to build a new store on the current Fratton Park site and the other one to build one adjacent to the new stadium. That should certainly help finance the new stadium. I can't believe ToyMan was that thick, he was on a wind-up wasn't he? You couldn't work in any business and believe the stuff he used to post. He'll be back, you just know it, and he's got months of delusion and the boring frustration of relegation, failure, arrogant inaccurate predictions, and too many toy fairs welling up inside him, he needs to let off steam - it'll be spectacular when he does return. I hope it's as funny as previous efforts - Messi this, billionaire that - there's a limit to how many Avram Grant prostitute gags I can do - I need new material. Maybe I should meet up socially every couple of weeks with the son of the kitman, he was sharp too....then again he should be with his old man on about £150K a year. Its a fantasy world over there. Keep the laughs coming, we have a boring summer to fill.

the Trust assured a meeting that the FL will bend over backwards to help the club survive, 'the FL are not in the business of seeing members go to the wall'... We are still to see how far they will go to help. Sporting sanctions cannot be be dependant on the state of the business - if offences have been committed, punishment will follow. I'd like to think that the days of AA threatening a court or football authority that if they aren't let off they will go pop, are behind us. A modest points penalty wouldn't financially damage the business to a great extent - unless they intend to build a promotion bonfire out of creditors' corpses. Mounting another spending spree on the foundations of theft from charity and small business wouldn't look good. I'm sure all those tax office jobs are safe - have they made the connection yet? That must have been a fun day at HMRC - where shall we close an office?.....mmmm, let's see.... It maybe time for plucky little bestest pompey to shut up, keep a low profile, and accept that settling in League One is better than getting treated as other clubs have been. And if they do start wittering on about a level playing field again, the FL should present them with the P!sstaking Club of the Year - and the accompanying minus 35pts.