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I'm curious to see exactly what they have bought.... Loan sharks don't lend interest free for a year or two then surrender all gambling cards without a decent payday. If the figure of £15M is accurate it really wouldn't surprise me if he has held onto the ground and is renting it to them. That was his original golden ticket to halt the child-maimer's plans, without the ground he has no control over his business enemy, nor the new owners. With it he has full control of all - and the opportunity to ask top dollar for it down the line. I can't see why he would include it for less than £20M - or has he still got first claim on transfers in? There must be some little gem in the small print if he sold 'the club' for £15M. Let's remember that any allegations aside, and there are a lot of them, these are the guys that couldn't produce enough funds to impress Bournemouth enough to even start negotiations. To do all they want they need £100M to start with. Their personal wealth isn't big enough to buy Bournemouth. So, did I mention? - the figures don't stack up.

just returned safely from portsea island. I know there are rough places everywhere but I hadn't even got out of the car before I saw a fat bird with no knickers and transparent tight leggings, and a bloke with a homemade tat the length of his leg - they and their Turkey Twizzler-fuelled, cross-eyed kids were waddling off to stick their little fat fingers in greasy chip bags. (sounded like Dune for a mo there!) It was like a trailer for Trainspotting meets Shameless, god knows what tourists make of it as they head down to Warrior. Makes you realise that most people down there don't know or care about where Russians get their money from, it's beyond their world. I suppose it makes it so much easier for Cotterill and Lampitt to fool them with feeble spin. What I don't get is how the more sensible end of their fanbase can pretend that most of the few are normal - it is definitely a club for local people. All clubs have an unsavoury element, but most keep it to a minority.

get 5% cashback? I don't think creditors are even going to see that much! I'm just off to a job in deepest Portsea, if I'm not back by this afternoon you know that I've been found out and dealt with.

did you think that on the back of some ruthlessly comic postings I'd been kidnapped by Russian men in sunglasses? The big clue to that when it happens will be when I suddenly start posting fluffy stuff about how maybe I have had it wrong all along and they are just nice businessmen after all...there will be no U-turn!.......Unless a former KGB bloke has my knackers in a vice, then I'll be happy to don a blue and white clown's hat, wave a bell about and sing whatever he wants me to. Anyway, I go away for three days and return to find that rather than making progress the few have actually managed to become MORE criminal than they were last week, amazing. Can there be any pompey fans out there still in denial about the quality of new owner they have attracted? No, really?? At least they have gone A List with these criminals - you won't be giving these guys any **** if you are sensible, in fact the most likely reason for this thread ever closing now is when we start disappearing one by one, or realise that we are going to get ourselves shot. As for the FaPPT - it now has less street cred than Ho and his hilarious delusions that kept us warm through two chilly winters.

Phil you little tease, are you challenging Ho's alltime record for slightly-flawed ITK claims? - or, if you really have some interesting titbits give clues that us sharper ones can translate! for instance - Is the child-maimer back in the building?...or did he never leave? Or just give marks out of ten to the takeover if you were a member of the few......

so Norris wants a three year deal, presumably on slightly silly wages. And it seems that 91 clubs don't consider he's worth that.... Cotterill had better up his game on transfers and not waste the Russian money like he did Chanrai's. One dodgy signing and he could be bundled off to a midnight meeting at Camber Docks. Lampitt might be heading for an evening tied to a chair in a lock up with petrol running down his broken glasses as well - difficult to question the idea of the FaPPT when someone has taped your mouth shout and is waving a lighter in front of it. Lesson one of Swimming with Sharks - if you take their money, you play by their rules. Getting in bed with arms dealers is one thing, getting cosy with their customers could be a step too far. But on the bright side, maybe this new pressure will focus their minds on better decision making.

Jealous outrage pfc123?.......mmmm, let me think....50,000 at wembley, Markus with his camera....Brighton away.....promotion....mmmm.... I think not. Yes, as you say, some of the pompey crimes do occur in football at several clubs, but your last few owners have rewritten that sorry book and taken it to a new level, hence the indignant outrage and theatrical shaking of heads. I don't think many on here have actually wished the club dead, they would just like some honesty when it comes to the facts. You know that you won the cup when the club was trading insolvently and ignoring tax demands, you also beat us with an illegally assembled squad on the back of misleading the high court with a false accounts statement. That was way beyond the misdemeanours that even Leeds have committed - lying to the court? I'd be a bit worried about the ongoing investigation if I were you, I'd be surprised if there aren't some little gems in those accounts -whether there is any punishment dished out is another matter. So the few seem happy to claim the cup from that time but reluctant to accept the crimes of that era as they were done by previous owners. You can't have it both ways. And what of the men at the centre of that glorious cup run? The captain still hasn't been paid yet, and the manager, who ably-assisted by the Fratton End favourite Peter Storrie drove the club over the cliff, is now despised by many. Can't see there being much of a reunion of the boys of 08. Now the folk of Portsea are celebrating a new era for the club, reappearing from their little shells as if the last season hasn't happened - they will once again claim to be pompey til they get bored. But it's too late, we now know - The bestest abandoned the club when the going got tough, they gave up - look at the attendances - that bestest myth has been nailed forever and only continues as a joke on here. 250,000 on southsea common - but 10,000 home fans at the arena. Small businesses still await money, the taxman has all but given up, and as a knock on effect of the loss of tax revenue in the current climate, national cuts have been imposed. So QA sees wards close and staff lose their jobs - pompey should have G5 on their shirts as a permanent reminder of that travesty and how they used other people's money to line their own pockets. Yes, the club has damaged people locally. They stole taxpayer's cash and gave it to the likes of Ben Haim, Nugent, Lawrence and Kitson - all on massively inflated salaries that no other clubs could afford, in fact, no club could afford. It's that cheating that causes the outrage, and it isn't jealousy - we just know what has gone on, and I believe we can see what is planned next. Through design and reputation your club has become a magnet for criminals, and it's gone so far down that seedy path that I'm not sure how you can drag in back into mainstream football. pompey are in a league of their own.

Not enjoyed it?? A rubbish manager who visits a grubby brothel in his club tracksuit driven there by his club driver paid for by season ticket holders. An administrator who signs autographs, people who sell landmines and are wanted for war crimes paying over the top wages to buy success, World Cup tickets for the Maradona Stand at the Harbourdome anyone? An owner that doesn't even exist, Al Fahim in his Gob****e shirt that is way too small, insane Ho making all those ludicrous claims, and let's not forget players who won't even play taking millions out of the club! - what is there not to like about this whole saga?...It's been hilarious! Ken Dodd has a lesson to learn here - a comedy show shouldn't last a paltry four hours, it should go on for two years and everytime you think it's over and you get up to leave because you cannot laugh nor wet yourself anymore - they come back out on stage and Avram makes his speech, or Cotterill blames a ref - it's been top draw comedy gold from start to....well, I'm not sure the laughs are over yet. This might just be another interval. I thought a year ago that we had our moneysworth out of their fall and let's face it they were cup winners and in the Prem when this fiasco started - how do we define getting away with it? Ask the few how much fun they've had, the ones I know are broken men. The soap opera has really have been very entertaining and I for one have found it all most uplifting - I would like a finale with points penalties but I can't complain about entertainment value thus far. Does that make me a bad person? Probably, then again I'm on the frontline and have suffered several years of gobby pikeys so I'm entitled to have a bitter streak. If you live in Southampton and never see a pompey fan, feel free to have no opinion on them. For the rest of us - bring it on, let's have some Russian laughs now, starting with the Arena! It's been quoted that they need to find £15M for Chanrai - but has he included the ground for that? Are they renting it? Would any loan shark let all his power go without recouping his full amount? If they are serious in the next few years they need maybe £15M for the child-maimer, £75M to build, £10M for players, £30M for wages, £16M for cva. That's enough to buy three or four established Prem teams...... There is hardly any parachute money available once football debts are cleared. If they want to 'exchange' money they pile £100M in and will then own a club worth about half of that - good business? They need to go up. So this thread still has legs, though the originator may perhaps like to set up a renaming ceremony for those that have enjoyed it? Put me on that guestlist.

nice pix Pedg, so when they said it's been a triumph - they meant the Acclaim that's balanced on a fridge. Part of me was disappointed to think that new owners might start pilling money into a new squad, then I Googled their owners again and up popped the connections to hitmen, stories of attempted murders and money laundering, the rejection by the UK's financial services authority over concerns about criminal activity and links to organised crime - well it just cheered me up! Possibly the most disturbing CV ever put before the FaPP testers? CSI Portsmouth - a forensic team sifts through a city's DNA desperately looking for any little differences, and also discovers there are no dental records.

nice to hear the Silence of the Fish has ended and we are now being treated to abusive comments about dead owners - very classy, it's like Ted's silence all over again. Just when I was feeling sorry for them they remind me of why this thread has lasted so long and why it has been so much fun. The more sensible fans have lulled us over recent months - but as soon as they have two laundered pennies to rub together it looks like the cross-eyed, lucky heather peddling ones, retarded through sister-bothering, are back. The best thing the Russians could invest would be fresh DNA - that gene pool desperately needs a top up.

fire up the washing machines, let the laundering begin! Presumably the level of investment available wll depend on how the brothels of Moscow are doing in the recession.

while the ownership becomes crystal clear, the pre-season is less so... The US tour that was promised as a free trip is once again looking anything but - so why do they keep misleading the fans? Cotterill has already enjoyed a Far East holiday and a US holiday researching this 'free tour', according to him he is also spending most of his time on the phone trying to arrange this holiday - perhaps some time looking at players or being nice to Russians would be time better spent? Commenting on the problems in the News today, honest Steve says - People have to trust me, it is nothing to do with our club, nothing at all. The man looking after this from this side of the fence is trying to get sponsorship, so we may have to contribute some money towards it But, for sure, I think it would be worthwhile. Trust you??? I think the trust went when your club shafted all the local businesses and charities mate. You promised that the shafted taxpayers wouldn't be funding your club holiday last year and then your own accounts showed that they did. Meanwhile the local businesses still await payment, well, those that haven't gone under. Maybe we will see more honesty from the club if they are taken over by a consortium allegedly linked to organised crime and money-laundering.

looks like they are hoping to triumphantly march into Fratton on June 1st - right in the middle of contract wrangles and with a couple of wages to pay before any income. Odd timing. I hope their due diligence has been better than most money-laundering concerns, if not they could catch the odd cold - I'm sure Chanrai mentioned the possibility of a points penalty and the £700K owed in back wages. The backing they give to Cotterill in the next couple of weeks should tell us how serious they are about football. Do I see the end of this thread on the horizon?....

who'd have thought that outbidding allcomers and offering vastly inflated deals could come back to bite you like this? That must be the most expensive FA Cup ever bought - how many millions did that cup run alone lose? There were the bonuses for players, and Redknapp and Storrie, that put it in the red, image rights still unpaid, and the wages are still going on as well. If you sell your soul for a 1-0 win over a bankrupt midtable championship club and give it large, don't moan about the small print when a horned bloke with a burning fork appears on the doorstep. Pay up pompey.

sorry for Huddersfield fans, their brilliant season has ended in the most depressing way. Unbelievable that their unbeaten run has delivered nothing. That said, I'm looking forward to taking maximum points off Peterborough.

just glad we aren't involved! What a relaxing day.

get off our land! Shoot their dogs.

it's gone very quiet on the Russians.......are they quietly fine-tuning their bid, or have they left the building and season tickets still need selling? They must be waiting for Barcelona's season to finish before they can start recruitment. Despite their motives and lack of funding I guess the Russians must be the last chance for a sale this summer, if they pull out Chanrai has nowhere to go - bearing that in mind, it might be worth him negotiating with them rather than making excessive demands....but I'm sure he knows what's best for the bestest.

that's got to delay the takeover.... Bosnian war crimes suspect Ratko Mladic is undergoing identity tests after being arrested in Serbia. I guess it's back to Libya now to see if they can raise the money to mount a promotion push.

while we are being graphic and toilety - I wasn't too good the other night, in the morning I said to my missus, did you hear me go to the loo in the night? it might have sounded like I was just having a p!ss, well I wasn't..... Tips? Don't risk farting in public, don't go for any bike rides, don't wear white underwear and don't cough without bracing yourself. good luck

they don't have enough players for 5-a side. Bearing in mind the loss of income from dropping out of the Prem tends to halve a club's income overnight, for any club in the championship to consider matching wages from a Prem club is ridiculous, even QPR didn't do that and they are worth billions. Blackpool's wagebill - £13M, Birmingham £38M, Wolves £30M - and they were outbid by pompey for at least one player, as were QPR. The interesting bit - Accountants reckon Birmingham's big problem is four players who were offered deals just over £1M when the club was generating massive Sky money - experts consider these to be unsustainable wages. But that's the same as the deals Cotterill and Lampitt agreed with two players while pompey were in the division below, ignoring massive debt and while trading insolvently. pompey went on to pay loan players up to £800K a year, more than Blackpool could justify despite having £40M more coming in. So the going rate for a player such as Nugent or Ben Haim is in reality about £12K-£15K - not £36K. If they agree terms with Norris at about £20K they will once again be paying bigger money than all but about ten of the 92 clubs. They are the Man City of the championship. Sort of. I don't see West Ham or Birmingham mounting a serious challenge this season unless they follow the pompey suicidal business plan. And on a point of grammar, pompey doesn't qualify for a capital P.

To mention race re Puncheon could be judged an attempt to blur the issue over his footballing shortcomings, making this thread three pages too long. I remember his last outing for us as a decent one in which he had full support from the crowd, but that doesn't fit his sob story. Early season his shooting was woeful, his defensive work for both Millwall and Blackpool was appalling, he was often seen in the corner of the frame as goals were scored - failing to track or just hiding. Holloway was so impressed with Puncheon's contribution to their freefall and relegation that rather than sending him back as surplus to requirements he immediately did everything in his power to retain him for next season..... All the managers that haven't wanted him, are they all wrong? Most fans frustration with him is that we know he can do better, we have seen glimpses of that - but he fails more often than not. To put it down to the one in fifty idiots shouting rubbish is IMO a new twist but a little far-fetched. He so got on the wrong bus! - but with the accuracy of his shooting I'm surprised he managed to board anything with less than a ten metre wide door.

so they haven't actually been paying the full wagebill this year??? Whoops, that's a little gem! Ben Haim will get his wages from the next parachute money as long as the football creditor rule doesn't get overthrown before he gets paid, so he couldn't give a sh=t. All they've done by not paying him is helped themselves to a short term loan from advanced Prem money, presumably to cope with horrific cashflow, and publically pretended to break even....ish! They could set a new record for squandering £48M and having nowt to show for it* - I can't see much parachute money making it as far as Chanrai let alone a new owner. Ben Haim has done sterling work, if he does play in August, (presuming West Ham paid him for the first half of the season) he will still have taken £2M off pompey since the last game he started for them, and if they ever pay NI and tax it will have cost them even more. £2M? - a third of their annual target for 25 players - and he earned that between games!! Think about that....it would be like us still having Rasiak on the books. And if he stays on that money they will have three players costing a total of £4M a year - don't know if I've mentioned it at all in 784 pages but the figures don't stack up! Stand up Sir Ben, go join Storrie in the statue-measuring area. *No big deal, they would only be breaking their own record.

if you wear the red and white with pride you will never be forgotten, and you did - so once a Saint always a Saint - look forward to seeing you at SMS, Happy birthday Ron - and remember that you have more than 30,000 friends in Hampshire, and many more across the country.

I can't write stuff this funny - Despite abusing local charities and bankrupting local businesses..... The club's progress in the community saw them honoured at the The News Business Excellence Awards earlier this year. Excellence in business??? Community??? Please tell us this was the national sarcasm and irony awards.