rallyboy

at least he got paid unlike the man who lifted the trophy. Imagine if Peter Rodrigues had never got his wages in 76 and the club offered him 3p a year per £? They celebrate the trophy but gloss over the theft and criminality that surrounds it.

In the comments I see the few blindly abusing a taxi firm that had the audacity to ask for more than the annual 4p in the pound (less expenses!) of the money stolen from them by Pompey. I bet those terminally-ill children will be banging on next about their money as well. Why can't they just let plucky Pompey get on with it? Sometimes it's best to accept that your club is the guilty party and to keep it shut. Anyway, how's the prossie-botherer getting on, I do miss his comedy routines, is he still creeping around industrial estates looking for filthy smack heads in mini skirts? They can afford someone to drive him to brothels but they can't break his spirit etc

so another raft of AA's masterplan is to shaft some of the football creditors. He must now be trailblazing on behalf of the taxman in abolishing that rule or he doesn't want the club to be in a league next season. Surely under current rules he has no choice but to pay the football debts in full, or dispute them and pay the reduced amounts in full? I'm sure the PFA will let their debt go and that Stade Rennais won't be knocking Sepp Blatter's door off it's hinges as I type. They also admit to agreeing the deal with Sol. An open and shut case, pay up or drop out of the league structure?

Special offer - two admins for the price of one!! The more expensive one traded insolvently, or your money back! well, a really small percentage of it if you're lucky. Be reckless with cash twice in ten years and we the taxpayer will bale you out, no penalties, no catches. Offer lasts until the CVA is read by the taxman's lawyers.

the cheating was mainly in misleading the Prem with a false statement of accounts so that the transfer embargo was lifted to allow 'urgent fundraising'. But none was attempted, the debts were left unserviced. Instead the wagebill for an already unaffordable squad was increased as the team was strengthened, clearly an attempt to gain an illegal advantage on the pitch, which they did, all the way to Wembley on money they are now going to steal from local businesses and the taxman. And when the local school can't afford a new computer or the hospital has to close a ward the few can just look back proudly on a cup run and remember that it was taxpayers who funded the trip, the kids will be backward or untreated, but Utaka got his image rights and the fans cheered all the way. Though my favourite was the club's trick of raising money for a children's cancer charity, and keeping it. That's called theft, and for the club to leave it to the fans to bail them out of that crime sums up the people who are still running Portsmouth FC, oh yes, the people who stole the cash are still there in the director's box, heroes to the few - after all I see no protests. Some things can be defended, but there are now far too many incidents defined as cheating or criminal, the club's name has been forever tarnished.

I don't like to kick creditors when they're down but anyone who said yes to 4p in the pound per year LESS the administrator's expenses is an idiot and deserves to be ripped off. I cannot imagine a situation where a normal businessman would accept that - I would happily write off my 3p to dance on the corporate grave of any company that tried to steal money. That document looks like theft on a grand scale, live the dream and pay it back in dribs and drabs. I look forward to HMRC getting into the detail, establishing the facts, and showing this farce up for what it is.

so that will be two of Chanrai's investor friends then, fresh from their appearances in the director's box. I do hope they've loaned dirty money to Chanrai/the club and linked these new tax evasion enquiries to the rest of the court cases. It would be hilarious if it was these two that are funding the admin illegally!! The fraud squad will need a pack of cards pretty soon - is Storrie the ace as he brings everyone else down?

Since the facts emerged I think we've all dismissed their 2008 season as it was clearly illegal. No sour grapes, but the club wasn't competing on the same terms as the other entrants so I no longer recognise the 2008 FA Cup - it ended with two bankrupt minnows trying to outbid each other and had little to do with football. Ironically it was the greed of that overpaid squad that pushed the club over the edge, with Cardiff not far behind. And I don't think Pompey fans can claim any victory when the captain of the side is still awaiting payment more than two years on.

interesting analysis Phil - slightly more relevant than the rehashed Hovis ad that starts with, 'between wars we had 50,000 people in here for our cup replay against the Corinthians', now being held up as a claim to a decent fanbase in 2010. Also curious to know more about how AA may have been telling porkie pies about the Hart family, he must love a good court case. I will chuckle when the CVA unravels under scrutiny.

I guess the best way to judge if they have got away with it will be the amount they invest in players. This thread can close the day they make the automatic promotion slots back to the Prem - to be that competitive would suggest that whatever takeover they manipulate is complete. BUT I still think there are plenty more laughs in this, and let's remember, we've had a whole year of belly laughs so let's not moan - tax evasion and hilarity - it's been like an extended Ken Dodd festival, it went on so long I had to wee in my flask. We can't pretend we haven't had value for money.

the comments regarding Stockport are interesting, Pompey are heading for a transfer embargo 'for their own good' and they will now have to file accounts and present detailed plans to the authorities. This will mean that they will now have to operate as a legal company, and compete on a level playing field - which could come as a shock. No more illegal transfers, no more buying out player's contracts to make them free agents, no more 'special deals' with Spurs, and the first time a lump sum slips out of the accounts and leaves creditors out of pocket it will be highlighted. Hopefully the rules will be strong enough and enforced sufficiently to get what was clearly a cheating club back within the league structure's rules and to protect local businesses and charities against theft, and of course they will have to meet the agreed terms of the cva should it be ratified. So if they escape further court action, for the first time in three or four years their results this coming season could be legally earned and so it will no longer be correct to call them cheats. It's a big IF.

so AA's decision to chop the taxman's cut down to a convenient level was taken after he showed it to a mate and asked what he thought. Fortunate his leading tax specialist didn't call it the other way. And can we clarify once and for all, did he need 75% approval or less than 25% voting against the cva? They are two very different things and I thought he needed the 75% support for it, which he claims to have cleared comfortably - and I don't believe!

is it just me or once again, do the figures not add up? The taxman + Hart + Udinese + any others didn't even make up 19% of the vote?.....and surely it had to be 75% approved not 25% declined so any missing ones were lost votes for them. AA couldn't contact some agents and the chairman of a football club he owes money to, but he managed to contact thousands of other annoyed businesses, and get their overwhelming support for 4p in the pound a year?..........no, I don't think so. And if Gaydamak has just lost £25M he will whack up the price of the future ground development land, and any rent he is charging for the ground the offices stand on - so he still holds an ace. I just don't buy AA's version of events, it defies logic and some of the facts.

the gloves are off - go taxman go! Unleash the hounds of justice....

while footballers everywhere are putting in at least 110%, AA still short changes us by only getting his total vote to 101%. I'm surprised he managed to get everyone to vote, I would have expected a few creditors to have more important things to do that support AA's effort to shaft them, he's obviously shrewder than we thought and the taxman will be no match for his superior skills. Or there might be a different version of these events later and it might look like AA has been talking b0ll0cks all along.

can someone let me have David Luker's email address? I know it's on the forum somewhere among a million pages but can't find it on the OS site easily either. ta.

I still believe they could find themselves under a transfer embargo for failing to file accounts - a new ruling quietly voted in last week.

we know how damaging delay can be for a new season. Slowly does it Mr AA, no need to rush things. Anyway the unveiling of the new manager will have to wait until his Argentina side get knocked out of the world cup.

that means AA has realised that the time for words is over, it's time to deliver! - a cva, debt repayment, a genuine financial report, and perhaps apologies to the fans he's misled, and everyone they've screwed? I expect him to score 0 out of 5. Though he might have a different version of the result.

if we've learned anything in 555 pages it's take any statement coming out of Fratton with a pinch of salt - the promises of wealth, the denial of tax problems, the harbourside superdome, there will be no firesale, the taxman is with us - so many examples, very few have been true. The current classics are that there will be no more points penalties, that they can afford Harewood's wages and the hint that the CVA will sail through unchallenged. They may well turn a corner on Thursday, but it will require more than a press release from AA to make it happen. He can deny it all he wants, he can announce new managers, he can sign autographs and plan big spending sprees - but until a billionaire slaps cash on the table, toast is still on the menu.

the problem is he's ignoring the creditors and hoping they go away, not really his remit. His job is to responsibly manage the debt, not increase it to a ludicrous level - his luck must be running out.

I can't believe that a company in administration can continue to run up debt at the rate that AA must be doing. No current income, regular hefty wagebill, soaring interest payments to shrewd loan sharks - because let's not pretend that businessmen 'helping out' since October last year are doing anything other than exploiting a damaged company to claim assets or massive repayments. Is it not time for AA's bosses to start getting jittery about responsibility for debt created under their watch?

AA and the players they can't shift are slowly but surely bleeding the carcass dry. Any investment from Chanrai funding this sham administration isn't a present, it's additional debt that needs to be addressed should a new owner ever emerge from a nuthouse. Every day that passes without new investment their plight becomes worse, but I can see why AA is in no hurry.

so when they say 'in the running' to buy, they mean, 'have left the table stating they are no longer interested'. I would have thought that even Ukranian gangsters would find it difficult to commit any new offences via the club - child trafficking maybe via a bogus academy?

more progress than that - the word in financial circles is that someone knocked on the door today but by the time AA stopped shredding files and got to the door they'd gone, frightened off by Griffins no doubt.