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So how many shooters where there on the grassy knoll, trousers?

And his 'stand against socialism', presumably. How does that work exactly? You still haven't answered how you reconcile that statement, your inane definition of socialism, the fact that Murdoch supported NewLab for more than 10 years, and that Brown was his fave PM.

Jonny Marbles. Good name for someone who seems to have mislaid them. Until a few mins before the attack, he was happily tweeting some reasonable common sense. "One gets the sense that they haven't really done the required reading ahead of their presentation. Think they may fail this module." http://twitter.com/#!/JonnieMarbles

Murdoch says the PM to whom he was closest of all was... Gordo! Clearly a very subtle 'stand against socialism'.

So how does Murdoch's decade-long support for Blair's New Labour (and some of Brown too) amount to a 'stand against socialism'?

Stand against socialism? His papers supported New Labour for more than a decade. And right now, he is Ed Miliband's most successful recruiting sergeant.

Look at the body language of his wife sitting behind - she's willing him to get through it. Murdoch's performance is painful to watch.

That's the end of Rupert Murdoch then - amazingly hesitant and clearly out of touch.

You may think it's funny, but it looks cretinously underhand to me at least - especially since you'd used the sneaky editing to justify the abuse you launched at Um. As UP says, you couldn't have chosen a better thread for pulling that stunt.

C4 may well be right to say that the current owner(s) are not traceable through legal documents. Of course, they could have asked the club, and would surely have been told what we've been told, and they could have made of that what they would. The simple factual error is in the highlighted bit: using the phrase 'turned out to be' suggests ML was all but completely unknown, and/or was hiding behind a shell company. I doubt it's so much dishonest as ignorant of Saints' recent history - but it's a serious distortion.

Which is why Mark Lewis, the Dowlers' solicitor, is saying the arrest is 'deliberate' - to shut her up and avoid further embarrassment to the hopelessly corrupt, incompetent Metropolitan Police.

If the sentence is partly because he bounced on the bonnet of those two parasites, then, for that, he should be thanked not imprisoned.

Solo free climbing is scary as hell. Catherine Destivelle's main competitor in the US is Lynn Hill, who's done equally daring climbs of, for example, El Capitan in Yosemite. Heaven knows why anyone would want to do this.

So it turns out that that David Gilmour is not Charlie Gilmour's father; David Gilmour did not write "We Don't Need No Education" but merely did the backing vocals and a bit of guitar noodling; and the song wasn't actually called "We Don't Need No Education" but "Another Brick in the Wall Part 2". We expect higher standards on Saintsweb.

That would be his stepfather.

She was a lightning rod to protect James Murdoch, so my guess is his days at BSkyB are numbered too, especially with such heavy pressure from American investors for him to go. I wonder about the 9/11 story. It's based on a Mirror report which, unlike the Guardian exposes in 2009 and since, was strikingly short of hard evidence. It's possible there's a bandwagon effect, which may dilute the harder cases against the Murdoch empire. Politicians, including Gordon Brown, may be particularly guilty of this - although Tom Watson seems to have been on the money every time. Apart from Watson, the one politician to have emerged from this with any credit is Vince Cable, who as Business Secretary was implacable in his hostility to the BSkyB bid and was therefore promptly removed from oversight of the bid by a bellended Cameron, who replaced him with a pusillanimous yes man in Jeremy Hunt.

I was hoping no one would spot that little stumble. Bugger. Less of a saintsweb supporter though.

How very like 'Four Rooms' this all sounds.

A whole page and no stripy frocks to look at?

I think Glasgow Saint has already nominated himself.

Correct.

Be careful what you wish for, Bournemouth.

Mods and Steve Grant and Baj really do need to rethink this in my opinion. Permanent banning seems to be a simple tripwire offence - you get to a certain number of infractions and off you go. But it should be a measure of the last resort. I read (mostly) and post on here for two reasons. I'm a Saints supporter and I enjoy the entertainment. Permanent bannings take away from both.

That would be the same Dune who was banned as Stanley on THIS forum.

Repo Man - produced by a Monkee. I didn't know that.