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You ain't gonna get PR. It really is as simple as that. Move on.

Who are you to presume to know the will of the people??? Weren't the Liberals on 29-31% in the polls right up until polling day??? What went wrong??? Do you think that maybe the electorate dumped them because they wanted a new government??? If voters had wanted a weak political system where every election result was a hung patliament they would have stuck with the Liberals and the Liberals would have achieved 29-31%, but the Liberals vote crashed so what does that tell you??? The only people crying are the Liberals, the rest of us just want a strong majority governemt to run the country. It's Clegg that is defying the will of the people by dilly dallying when our nation is in economic peril. If there is a run on the pound make no mistake it will be the Liberals fault and the longer and more protacted the horse trading becomes the more the public will realise that "balanced" parliaments are bad and therefore the more they'll realise that the PR syatem would be bad for Britain because every election would deliver instability.

The Tories are not going to give in to clegg over PR. Ultimately Clegg has no choice but to either form a coalition with the Conservatives or allow the Conservatives to run as a minority government. Labour cannot deliver PR for the simple reason that all the Tories + enough Labour MP's would defeat the motion so there would be no point in forming a minority coalition with Labour. David cameron is going to be Prime Minister and the best the Liberals can hope for is a few concessions on some policies and a couple of cabinet places. PR ain't gonna happen.

Put yourself in Browns shoes. You inheritted a country in fine shape due the economic policies of Ken Clarke, Britain was booming, boom and bust had been eradicated for good. Brown really believed he was Nero. Nothing could wrong so Brown didn't even consider running a budget surplus or retaining our gold reserves. This economic crisis was impossible, it simply couldn't happen.

I've just noticed that the gold price has hit a record high of $1200/oz. http://www.kitco.com/charts/livegold.html However more worryingly than Gordons incompetent decision to sell our bullion reserves for peanuts, could this strengthening in the safe haven of intrinsically valuable investments be the clearest pointer yet that that the world is heading into another recession? There's a storm brewing on the horizon me thinks.

Or ask yourself ... if Alan Pardew and Nicola Cortese don't get on would you rather see a clean break now or later?

Kinder surprises are yummy, and the surprise is even better.

He was joking even though he won't admit it.

Milky Bars or Caramacs and i'm also partial to a Bourneville.

VFTT you're like a stuck record, but i love you really.

This is just it. The loony Liberals would have a fit of the vapours if PR ever did come in and the BNP and UKIP were suddenly king makers.

Give it 6 months and Dave Cam with call another general election and then the Liberals will be wiped out in the South and South West. You heard it here first. Those calling for PR are just a few loony Liberals, the public don't want weak coalitions forever and the next election result will confirm this.

It's fantastic that we're now in a position to sign players and pay their wages at the start of the close season. This gives us the pick of the crop where before we've always had to wait and sign players late on when the best have been snapped up.

That's uncanny because so did I.

Got a text at 16.53 "Up Up and Away" Got a text at 17.01 "Going mad on the pitch" And tomorrow i'll have the pleasure of having to listen to how they came back from being 1-0 down with 10 men + 12 months of jibes about them being in a higher league than us. I couldn't be more pleased at the outcome.

It was rumoured a week or so ago that senior Tories were not happy with David cameron for agreeing to do the election debates (he didn't need to agree to do thrm as he had a 10 point lead in the polls) and clearly the Tory cabinet is very weak in many areas. The Conservatives should have romped home in this election and destroyed the Liberals in the south and southwest. The Liberals did badly, but given their policies they should have been down to 30 seats tops. Their polling of 23% turned out to be a shock to everyone apart from me, but it would have been sub 20% based on their policies without the clegg factor. That all said the electoral system didn't help and if you'd flipped the percentages round Labour would be sitting on a landslide majority and you'd be crowing at how popular they are.

I think you're right. You get a lot of managing directors who are nice and friendly, but they always make sure they have utter cvnts working under them to get the job done. NC is just hands on IMO and bypasses the middle men.

Uninformed common sense though it must be said. I remember that fountain of philosophy that is Jimmy Case talking about Saints troubles a few years ago and who am I or anyone to disagree with him? He described a football club as a triangle comprised of the fans, the team and it's management, and the board, and he went on to say that for a club to be successful all 3 points of the triangle must be united. We as fans may well be happy with things, the team and manager may well have had a good season, but if the board (or in this instance Nicola Cortese) isn't 100% happy then the triangle is broken. As i posted on another thread it has been clear for sometime that all isn't well between Alan Pardew and Nicola Cortese. NC made a public statement basically instructing AP to buck his ideas up and start delivering results, and so insued a battle of ego's with AP making several comments to the press which were basically digs in retaliation to what NC had said. As it goes I think NC was wrong to go public like he did, and I can't really blame AP for having a dig back, but ultimately these exchanges heralded the end of a working relationship so under these circumstances i'm inclined to think that the status quo in untenable looking forward because the damage has been done and something will have to give, and in a employer versus employee disagreement such as this is I can only see one outcome. This is all reading between the lines and I may well have misjudged the situation, but if AP does have to go then it has happen now so that it doesn't impact too much on the start of next season.

No problem, i just have an obsessive dislike of Americans and their ism's.

Putting aside how well AP did in certain parts of the season he has made several digs that were clearly aimed at Nicola Cortese. Nicola is clearly a cvnt, and I mean this in the nicest possible way, because to get where he has at his age you've got be, so he's not going to sit idly by and let someone undermine his authority. I think AP was finnished at Saints a few months ago to be honest and that NC was waiting for the close season and will now act fast. If he keeps AP on it'll be his first mistake IMO as once a hierarchical relationship flips like it has you can only paper over the cracks for so long in which case it'd be better to face up to reality and deal with it now.

It's programme NOT program.

That would depend on whether you are in Southern Ireland or Northern Ireland and whether you are Protestant or Catholic.

Nice try skate.

This. Nicola Cortese and Markus Liebherr are far more important to SFC than AP. If NC does decide he cannot work with AP then we must accept it and move on.

Yes.