Sour Mash

Yeah, they never went to any games in 83/84, 89/90, 02/03, hate seeing Saints successful You're another one that doesn't understand match going supporters.

You're missing the point. It's not prices goign up and loyal fans turning around and never going ever again. It's a whole package of things, slowls chipping away at those that have traditionally gone week in, week out, up and down the country.

Why is that different? And Man Utd away £46.50, Chelsea away circa £50, so not exagerating. Did you do the Chelsea game? Are you going to United?

So you are saying that someone that stuck with the club through Crouch/Wilde/Lowe/Dutch due, did Hartlepool on a Tuesday night etc isn't loyal? The "can't afford to go" argument is far more complex than you think - people that are p****d off with the club are less likely to shell out a fortune following their team.

Yep. It's not necessarily about it being the "worst ever time" for the football club, just spending £40+ on a ticket and being told to sit down and shut up isn't for them. I can very much see where they're coming, regardless of the football being better. You might not get that, others do.

I know a few that have.

Yeah they're cracking fans, know a lot of them well and stuck with the club at it's lowest point, something which many, many others didn't.

Exactly. Loads of fans I know that stuck with the club at it's lowest point are getting fed up. I'm sure they won't be missed though.

And with that, you've convinced me! I want to evolve. I don't want people to think I'm a dinosaur or there's something wrong with me. What do I need to do to become one of your new generation? What should we be doing? Please help us Frank.

If you don't like certain aspects of modern day football you're a dinosaur with something wrong with you and you need to evolve and behave like Arsenal or Liverpool's home support as that's just the way fotball is these days so there.

Exactly, often done over an internet forum without bothering to go to games and support the team themselves.

Every generation? So all those young lads that get priced out of modern football or get p***d off about not being able to stand or sing, which "generation" do they fit into?

Rubbish mate,for Frank's Cousin and his ilk, it's all about evolving the brand, following closely on the internet and cheering on the Chairman.

Interesting view, but what about the likes of Blackburn last season?

You're aggreeing with my point, it's their choice and their place will be taken by those happy to pay and put up for anything for the "brand". But if/when the bubble bursts, either for football as a whole, or the clubs concerned and those clubs drop back down, the people that stuck with the club at their lowest point may be long gone.

There was never going to be any great protest or waving of hankies. There will be no great protest by fans as to the state of football and the way their clubs ar run. Just gradually, slowly, the proper, loyal football fans will drift away, to be replcaced by the plastic, sit-in-silence, cash cows we see and mock at The Emirates, Anfield and Old Trafford.

I think last night answered that clearly enough didn't it.

Agreed my friend, I think we all long to see the day when St Marys is full of Japanese tourists paying £50 a pop clapping along to "Cortese's Barmy Army"

That's exactly what its all about. From the Japanese signings, adverts and twitter account, through to change in Programme sellers and management team, the new black and white badge.

Bit embarrassing getting caught making stuff up isn't it, particularly about your team's greatest ever player.

He isn't always running to the media though. Why are you making stuff up?

Le Tiss is one of the least egotistical superstar footballers of the modern era. Talk to any Saints fan at a game and or in a pub and they'll tell you the same. Come on here however..............