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GOAL: Salzburg 0-4 Bremen - Di Santo 45'

@ValenciaCF: Starting XI vs @SouthamptonFC: Jaume, Barragán, Vezo, Orban, Gayà, Parejo, Javi Fuego, Enzo Pérez, Piatti, Rodrigo, Negredo #AudiquattroCup

GOAL: Salzburg 0-3 Bremen - Garcia 26'

GOAL: Salzburg 0-2 Werder Bremen - Ujah 22'

GOAL: Salzburg 0-1 Bremen - Bargfrede 15'

United's midfield/attack...? Schneiderlin, Herrera, Schnweinsteiger; Depay, Rooney, Di Maria. And that's forgetting Carrick and Mata...

Jesus

It's not 'Juamni', it's 'Juanmi' - evidently from Juan Miguel, but I think you were just a bit confused over his name.

Watford reported to be making a move for Saphir Taïder...

Edit - link: http://www.marca.com/en/2015/07/07/en/football/spanish_football/1436288837.html I don't think people should be doing the 'nudge, nudge, wink, wink' on a fairly sizeable forum like this though. You only need people to draw the wrong conclusions and it can get quite damaging pretty quickly. Toby was a good servant during his loan spell and seems like a decent enough chap from what I've seen/heard. Time for us to move on, I think.

The only thing I've ever seen about Toby's personal life (bar his marriage), was that he and his wife were being threatened by a computer hacker for the past two years. Somehow this chap got into Toby's emails and computer and was making damaging allegations and threats to the player and his family, including death threats. I'll try and find the link. But if stuff isn't out there about someone's life I don't think this is the place for it.

Because if they've got an agreement that we can buy him for £6.8m (by virtue of failing to complete the buy-out), then we aren't obliged to offer £11.5m+ (or whatever Spurs are offering).

If you're taking legal action against someone holding you to ransom for money they aren't entitled to, why would you chuck them the money? The legal gripe is with Madrid, not Spurs. We can't do anything about that - but we can make sure we don't get entirely shafted by Madrid, by dragging them into court.

For what it's worth, here is my take on things now. I can't imagine it is anything particularly new to anyone, but I just thought it worthwhile to get it all down in one post anyway. Atlético have reneged on the agreement (which is sound, and proper - as confirmed by BBC et al), but appear that they are going to be complicit to forcing through Toby's move to Tottenham. As far as Toby is concerned, I believe that he genuinely holds a lot of fondness for Saints and would gladly sign here, had it worked that way. However, Saints clearly feel that they've been played here, and aren't entirely happy to just roll over and chuck Madrid yet more money. Toby appears to be at the stage of completing the medical and doing the contract, and signing with Spurs in London sometime this week. If that becomes increasingly protracted, then maybe he is holding out for Saints after all. I don't have any bad blood towards Toby, or for that matter, Tottenham. They would have been just as unaware of the clause in the agreement as the rest of the nation until it was thrown into the spotlight by Saints. There is of course a chance that Saints could strike a deal that is the same, or better, than Spurs' offer to both the player and the club, but it's fair to say that club relations are pretty much at breaking point between Southampton and Atlético Madrid. Of course, you have to ask the question of whether they'd be willing to go into business with Saints if we could make them a better offer, when things already seem to have progressed fairly rapidly. You also have to question whether Les Reed and the higher powers that be at Saints really want to get down this route if they believe they've acted ethically and with correct morals. Toby wanted a move to a Premier League club, and he wanted it to be sorted so that he could actually have a good pre-season this year. I don't think he is overly concerned as to which of the two clubs really went for him, as both had their respective plus-points. With Spurs, the Belgian connections and the London lifestyle and potential for a new stadium and regular European football. With Saints, Toby had a squad he knew, a place he had been living for a year and a chance to reunite with Koeman. As I see it, it looks like Madrid are going to do the deal with Spurs and end up in the courtroom with Saints. Our anger, frustration and ire should be directly at Atlético, and not Toby Alderweireld, or even Tottenham. *IMO

Here's episode one - 'A Sign Of The Times'. Episode one of 'The March', a new monthly documentary from the heart of Southampton Football Club, tells the inside story of Saints' off-season transfer business as Juanmi, Cédric Soares and Maarten Stekelenburg link up ahead of the 2015/16 campaign.

Koeman speaks to Blackmore: https://audioboom.com/boos/3348056-listen-saintsfc-boss-ronald-koeman-on-futures-of-schneiderlinmo4-alderweireldtob-with-bigadamsport

Wasn't it the Frank Lampard loan to MCFC from NYCFC that brought all of that to light?

Good job you're not too bothered by it, really. Sounds like a utility player to bolster the squad for European competition. I know literally nothing of him but according to that Dutch journalist, he's one of Twente's better players.

Proof that it's also already been posted into the all-encompassing Summer Transfer Window thread, too.

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?54425-Summer-Transfer-Window-2015&p=2209439#post2209439

Saints signing Cuco Martina, 25-year-old RB who can also cover CB - from FC Twente, apparently.