alpine_saint

I am sure I get under peoples skin by posting something at the wrong time- diplomacy is not really my forte- but it doesnt necessarily mean what I have written is not true.

Adrian, sorry, all of what you have just written here is subjective. I dont post for attention, and I resent the accusation. I post in order to feel part of what is going on when I live so far away. Try it and see how it affects your behaviour. I regard myself to be a fairly intelligent person, and feel I have drawn reasonable conclusions, and do my best to explain them. Maybe the emotion of the moment and the immediate inush of a dozen abusive responses prevents me doing so as effectively as I would wish. Its difficult to elaborate on a point youve just made when you're angry at having just been called a "trolling skate tw*t". My current bugbear is the speed with which we do our transfer business. If it takes too long it will hinder our ability to hold on to the top spot. In my opinion, even going back to my "CB watch" posts under Burley, we always take too long on transfer activity.

Maybe its too early to say that ! Maybe they got the sort of players in during the summer to contribute to squad depth that are not available in the tougher market conditions of January.

I am not certain that genuine "debate" has ever been possible here. Most people seem to have intractible opinions. I dont think you can only accuse me of that. And your comment about my opinion ruling is a bit bizarre.

Well, thats a bit reassuring.

They also affect league positon after January. Maybe the reason we are going to plummet soon is because we have no squad depth, only 14 or so first team quality players, where as our rivals have deeper squads because of summer activity, and now we are getting jaded players, and picking up injuries and suspensions.

Fair enough. But I have seen identical posts to mine from others that dont get half a dozen abusive responses. That seems to me its because of the poster, not the post content. And I thought you were saying the same thing indirectly.

Well that is just nonsense. Maybe this window is going a bit slow, but every summer half our rivals undertake serious strengthening even before we've come back to the office, scratching our arses, following the booze-up fortnights in Magaluf.

What do you mean by that ?

I dont agree with this. There is a pre-conception about the value of my opinion due to the amount of games I attend.

1. Bring the players in to stay there. 2. Actually stay there. 3. Take the next opportunity against teams at the bottom to open up a breathing space, unlike so far this season. 4. Get promoted.

Dude, if Coventry had taken their chances before NA turned things around, it could easily have been 3 clear goals. Be fair about that.

Unfortunate if that is the case. We have issues with the format of this site, in my opinion. I would also prefer we look at this in terms of the site, not in terms of alpine_saint.

See, now you've actually proven one of my points. So what if we're top of the league ? Our form is relegation form, so we arent going to stay there. But pointing that out is extremely controversial on here. I have praised the turnaround today in the second half and written positively about the impact it might have. But that all gets ignored.

Right, so its got nothing to do with what we've actually written. That makes it even worse.

I dont consider it to be ill-informed. This "alpine doesnt know what hes talking about" has simply come about because I dare to live abroad (I dont understand the stigma attached to it, apart from there has always been a bit of a p*ssing contest on here about the amount of games one goes to) And at the moment negative is how I feel, after months of being fairly up about things. Are we only allowed to post nice fluffy things ?

Why cant you just accept that we dont believe everything is that great currently ?

My apologies for putting it here, it seems the right place and this topic will probably generate feedback from the users. Move it if you deem it necessary. Is the main board supposed to be for diverse discussion of all things Saints, including trips down memory lane, various trivia, but most importantly about the current situation with the team - but in the latter case only as a mutual masturbation glee-club about how wonderful everything is with dissenting or conflicting opinions completely taboo ??? Do you guys realise just how much systematic abuse is being dished out for anyone who doesnt toe the "party line" ? I may throw back the odd piece of abuse, but the agression and sheer nastiness has become mostly a one-way street, and there are others receiving this treatment too, just because we dont feel everything is so damned peachy at SMS. Everytime someone questions or doubts the wave of euphoria, a dozen posts come crashing in with vile abuse. Is that the sort of site you want ?

Yes, because saying you are "not convinced" really deserves the epithet of "weirdo trying to bring the mood down", doesnt it ?

Monday will still be a f**k of a lot sooner than we will complete anything. If we complete anything. I mean, what a totally outrageous idea to do work permit paper work before the transfer window opens. What a truly wacky idea...

You've been around long enough Adrian to know better than to pander to this stereotype. Come on, be fair. I am very down on where we are at the moment (we could have been laughing at our situation by now, instead we've thrown ourselves back into the mix with our relegation form of the past 8 matches), but that is not always the case, despite the current crusade against me. I was fullsome in my praise for the team and manager up until November.

What reasoned arguments ? I think you'll find a large amount of people are making posts where the basic message is "look where we are compared to 18 months ago - how dare you criticise anything the club does now ?"

Another pompous arse who dishes out abuse for what is nothing more than a differing opinion, then hides behind an ignore list. I pity you.

Pompey away. More unfinished business after the last match.

LOL at the sheer hypocrisy of you lecturing others about use of swear words.