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Yep. Darren Kenton too.

I notice the URL for that picture is from imageshack, meaning you have this picture saved on your hard drive. Dirty boy.

I thought he was excellent in several games in midfield. Ran the show infact. Hull away when we won 4-2. There was a home game against Leicester when he scored (think that was the game that nearly got called off). He was also pretty good in the play second leg in midfield with Guthrie. Also he is not the worst CB we've ever had, not by a very long way. Darren Powell was worse, as were Jackobsson, Lancashire, Davenport and Lundekvam mk.05.

It seems this simple metaphor has gone way over the heads of some people, so I will go back to the basics. The ability to conceive a child and the ability to raise a child are two completely different concepts. You only have to look at examples like the Baby P fiasco to see that. Some woman got knocked up and 9 months later a baby fell out of her. Brilliant. Does that mean she is a suitable mother? No, of course not. Between this woman (I forget her name) and her boyfriend they neglected and beat a baby to death. It's the most tedious of tedious links. What you are saying is that a straight father raising a child is natural, but a gay farther isn't. Why? Because a straight father can conceive a child "naturally". In other words a straight father is a suitable parent because he sh*gged some woman 9 months ago, but a gay father isn't because he didn't. I don't normally agree with Deppo, but he makes a valid point here. We do thousands of things in every day life which aren't "natural". Your car, your TV, your ipod... you go on holiday flying isn't natural. You get there and disagree with the Spannish food, the doctor gives you antibiotics, that's not natural. The list is endless. Let's put it another way. Single parent families. There are loads of people out there, be it single mums or single dads, who raise a kid on their own. If a man can raise a kid on his own, why can't two men? I've got a friend who shares a flat in London with his brother. Should they be banned from having kids because 2 men living together isn't natural? Where exactly is the problem? A man can raise a kid without a mother in the house, no problem. Two men can share a house, that's no problem. Is it simply the fact that the two men have a sexual relationship that is the problem here?

I can't build a car, are you saying I shouldn't drive one? I'm not entirely sure what your point is. I'd say most lads are pretty close to their mums, same as most girls are pretty close to their dads. I'm not knocking single parent marriages here. I'm saying you shouldn't deliberately put a young kid into a world where they have no contact from a relative of the same gender.

I did think of you when I said that Mike, but like I said it doesn't have to be a mother and father living together. For a start three of yours have an older sister to look up to and I believe they all see mothers an aunties fairly regularly. I'm talking about if there are two gay men together, in which case there would be no woman involved at all.

There's a minefield of issues here, I can't be arsed going through them all. In summary: Gay people adopting kids - Fine Old people adopting kids - Wrong People getting kids due to wealth - Wrong Kids not having a role model of the same sex - Wrong The mental image of Elton bumming - Very very wrong

And I'd agree with that, assuming of course the couple does have the money to provide a comfortable upbringing. You've just told me it's half the problem, then said it shouldn't be an issue. Make you mind up.

Again, money is a different issue to homosexuality. I don't particularly have an issue with a child being born into poverty having a rich upbringing. I'm sure he will be spoiled, but it's better than being unwanted on the streets. It's not as if this isn't an issue with straight parents either. Look at the Royal Family, Beckhams kids, whichever African tribe Madonna has adopted this week.

Age - That's a different issue and one which I have more of a gripe with that the homosexuality. I'm happier with a 30 year old gay couple adopting that a 63 year old straight couple, simply because it's going to be unfair on the kid having to look after ageing parents. I think boys need a male role model and girls need a female role model. Not nescessarily in the same house, but a role model in some capacity, even if they only see them on weekends etc. I think half the problems in society stem from a lack of direction and discipline as a child. Half the scumbags on the Jermemy Kyle show got there because they didn't have a strong father figure as a child. Someone to whack them accross the arse and say, "don't do that, go and finish your homework". Kids need someone they can identify with and respect. This from the bloke who doesn't have any. You can moan about being PC if you want. I'm hardly a PC happy clappy leftie type. I just don't see a problem with any of this.

I don't see any problem with it personally. There are plenty of kids out there who either don't have a a mum or don't have a dad. I'm sure it will be different for the kid, but I don't think it will be a problem as such. At least you know with Elton he's going to get the best upbringing money can buy. His childcare, education, healthcare etc. will all be far better than he could have had in Ukraine. The problem would be if they were adopting a girl. I don't entirely agree with that because she wouldn't have a female rolemodel in her life.

Niemi's triple save was the season before. I think Blayney's actually won the Sky Sports save of the season, not just ours.

You have a strange diet.

How is that the point? We're talking about issues which could effect the club and it's finances at the top level and you're more worried about getting a 2 page spread in the Dailly Heil?

I call 'myth' on that one. Guly - Can't remember the date he signed, but our last 4 games have been against Tranny, Manure, Exooharr and Posh. Man Utd is always a tough gig and in the other 3 fixtures Saints played fairly poorly as a team. I'm sure when we improve our overall game, Guly will come good again. Saga - After signing him on a permanent deal, Burley pulled off the tactical masterstroke of not actually playing him. I remember Saga scoring in that God-forsaken curtain raiser against Palace, then scarcely being seen again until about February. I remember one midweek match (think it might have been against the Us) when he came on with 45s of injury time left. Madness. You can't exactly call him lazy either, he put in more effort than Stern John, BWP and Rasiak combined (although that really isn't saying much).

You're probably thinking of Le Fondre, who a lot of people thought was out of contract in summer. ALF is contracted till 2012 and has said he wont re-sign. No idea about CMS.

Just read that too. Gutted. A quote from his doctor: "The situation of the hand was clearly serious, it was nearly amputated and we’ve reconstructed completely, first recomponing the fracture and then working on muscles and nervous tissue. The operation has been successful, i don’t want to say too much but we’re quite confident. Kubica should get back the total functionality of the hand for his vital functions and maybe his driving profession. However, it will need some time, perhaps a whole year of rehabilitation. By the way, everything’s been good." I wonder who will replace him. Romain Grosjean and Bruno Senna are the reserve drivers, but there are more experienced drivers available like Heidfeld and Fisichella (who knows the team well).

I believe Milford on Sea is one of the most popular holiday destinations for people in Dubai. They have a highly developed sense of irony.

We haven't had many central midfielders who get goals in recent years. Think the best was Surman getting about 7 the season we got relegated from the CCC. Chaplow's on his way to topping that.

I wonder if they would switch it to the Millenium if that happened and just compensate Wembley some how. I hope not, it would be pretty good to see a train full of Welshers beating the crap out of each other.

Agbonlahor? Has 3 goals this season. With 4 other strikers plus Young and Walcott I'd have thought another midfielder would be better. Albrighton is a good shout. I'd also give a nod to Jack Rodwell or Kieran Richardson based on this season's form.

Great article, I think he's got it dead on there. Top Gear tries to be funny, when it just shouldn't. It should be an interesting fact based car programme, but with hints of humour thrown in. When I say interesting and fact based, I don't just mean reviews of new cars, customer performance reviews etc. Stuff like the North Pole expedition and driving cheap cars accross various continents is interesting. I just wish they'd do it as more of a social and technological experiment, as opposed to a set up for a half baked slapstick comedy. Hammond can feck off too. Coogan is right, he's just a lame Clarkson wannabe and he's seldom funny.

http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=42901 Hope it's not too serious, but he could well miss the start of the season.

You have the funniest username on this forum.