Saint86

The laws are the deterrent - not the punishment. Punishments must fit the crime. Which in this case is a stand alone and fairly inconsequential and amateurish attempt, and a far cry from Bielsa's leeds having a detailed dossier prepared on each of their opponents that season.

I agree with others that say it will be a fine. Obviously we don't know the details of this case, but i am expecting circa £500k-£1M. If there is a to be a sporting sanction, i am expecting 2-3points. Leeds got £200k for spying for an entire season and having a dossier on every side... that is a far bigger impact over the course of the season on final league position and impacts every other side (and particularly those that competed with leeds at the top end). This is a stand alone case relating to spying before the 1st leg of the semi final. We're not charged here for spying since January or anything like that. People need to step outside of the boro incited media witch hunt (and all its associated hyperbole). This is a stand alone offence that we are accused of... it completely blew up in our faces, and clearly it actually worked in boro's favour in that 1st leg. Plus, how meaningful do we seriously think it could have been, it was a young lad on his mobile at the other end of the training ground, and saints travelled the next day and would not have been able to do much analysis with it, or devise counter drills etc. Similarly, as numerous experts have said, both saints and boro basically set up as standard for the game. Or is someone going to die on a hill that the reason Boro didn't win that game wasn't because they're strikers are not very good?

They can't just "make an example" of us. We would appeal, blow up the entire playoff schedule, and potentially sue them for a significant amount of money.

Get ready for SaintsExtra to put out a "the EFL independent hearing has broken for lunch and will resume in one hour" post... and someone to share it on here as if its breaking news.

Specifically Hayden Hackney's reaction to a £250k per week saints contract being rejected because his incredibly selfish and unfair chairman (Gibson) wouldn't accept a £1M transfer fee...

Proper Captain material.

People need to stop following or sharing saintsextra, possibly less accurate than the Boro forums... They will reshare anything that gets hits. As for this one, everyone knows the findings are expected today FFS.

But think how much fun we can all have as steadfast Boro ITK's deliver consistently incorrect "reveals" for when the press conference will be ☺️😆.

Don't kid yourself, they'll be glued to their screens watching us get promoted whilst convincing each other on their forum that Gibson himself will march on to the pitch to expel us before the final whistle.

What we need to do is submit lowball offers for the likes of Malanda and Hackney all summer, but offer them silly wages. Will properly piss of boro 😁

They really are a superb case study into social media echo chambers and 2+2=5...

I think fans of all clubs would welcome a statement at lunchtime, so for once i hope boro fans have got something right... sadly all evidence to date suggests otherwise.

The only way the EFL face a lawsuit is if they kick us out. Boro have no reasonable avenue to sue them from what i can see?