Saint86

Don't think they can seriously do that before any legal proceedings with saints are closed. But the rule should obviously be scrapped. If boro are in the league next season, we should do surveillance on their next opponents before every fixture. See if we can catch them at it.

Isn't he one of the ones on here that always starts Character assassination rumours when stuff starts going wrong? Take it with a pinch of salt if i were you. THB was basically ready to have Eckert's babies he was so impressed with him. Players absolutely loved playing under him - you don't go 20unbeaten in the league and beat Arsenal/Fulham if you hate your manager.

Any ban the FA give him will be for England only. If SR let him go, he will be in budesliga next season. He looks to be a top top manager in the making.

Has merits tbf.

Why detonate the club entirely over what is in reality a common place occurrence in the world of football, and for which (in this case) we were set up for, and which we've been trialled in a kangaroo court. The damage has been done to saints regardless of whether we get rid of Eckert and Spors - but our chances of having a good summer transfer window will be a hell of a lot worse without spors, ditto our chances of hiring a good new manager. And similarly, the only reason we were even in the playoffs is because of Eckert and 20 game unbeaten run in the league. The FA may ban Eckert, the players may not want to play for him after this... But the whole league will be desperate for us to sack the best manager in the league for only one reason - because it means we are weaker and will take us out of the picture - What Guan has said on this is absolutely spot on. If we can keep him employed and conduct a reasonable disciplinary process, it should be considered. It is not the time to detonate the entire club because emotions are still raw and the media are saying hurty words.

If the players will play for him and he isn't banned. We should keep him. But those are 2 big ifs. He's a young manager with only half a season's experience who made a bad error. But the buck doesn't stop with him. No supervision or compliance above him, and in reality what we've done is commonplace. Saints are damned now whatever we do, but the league and media smell blood in the water and would want nothing better than to see us sack the best manager in the division.

Sheaf, most clubs do it - if not basically all clubs. Its not even a rule in any other major league and is common practice. Its not a big deal ffs. Step outside of the media narrative. On this one occasion, we've been setup specifically by the whistle-blower and Boro, and then rinsed in the court of public opinion in an orchestrated media frenzy / witchhunt. The punishment is extreme, a potential (slow) club killer. Yes we were a little bit naughty, but more importantly we were spectacularly stupid and our handling of it was beyond incompetent to boot. Saints (fans/media/club) need to stop the self flagellation/prostrating ASAP. Blackmore more than anyone else. I love his passion for the club, but he's hurting us every time he goes on air to give lip service to the establish boro narrative calling us morally repugnant etc. That is not going to help us. There is blood in the water, every club and the media all see it - and being weak now is the wrong course of action. There is a narrow window where we can mitigate the impacts of this and try to rebuild effectively for next season. It is time to close ranks, shut out the noise, and sort ourselves out. Take steps to repair the damage with the fans, the staff, and the players - and forget everything outside the club. The world will move on - spurs/west ham relegation, the CL final, the world cup, new city manager, 115 charges etc... This summer and next season is what matters to saints... Repeatedly going on air and giving oxygen to the idea that we're morally repugnant because we sent a kid with an iphone to a few training sessions is just furthering Parsons' self harm mantra.

The NO.1 signing this summer should be Peretz - if there is any way/shape/form its possible, the club should do everything they can to make it happen. He has won us more points than any other player IMO.

Interesting thought, would we potentially try and send any of Salt, Tonda, or Spors to Goztepe... Depending on what ultimately comes out, i am not sure any of them could ever work for saints again... but the SR group may try to keep them on.

You only have to look at the club trajectory under Cortese and after Cortese. He saw us to back to back promotions and a Wembley final win in the 3 seasons post his arrival. He bought in Poch, and the squad, coaching, and scouting setup he oversaw gave us the momentum in the following years to break into the top 8 and europe. He spent other people's money is the most common criticism levelled at him re the football club... all i can say is that can you imagine where we'd have been if he'd been spending Solak's money...

I suspect emotions are very raw and will remain that way for a while. But right now nothing can happen as the window is shut. The club have to move very quickly to reset the coaching and backroom setup, and to try and assuage / mitigate the toxicity and anger that is building. Fundamentally, it was (until this point), and amazing season. The bond between the players doesn't go because of this, nor does the bond with the fans. Get rid of the back eggs that have caused this furore, get rid of those that really don't want to be here, then close ranks and try to go again. IMO, we need to go out right now and get a proper name manager in. A bit like Koeman during the summer of discontent. In many ways, the on the field impact is like we lost the playoff final - the same players will want to move as in that eventuality. The rest can be healed - if the club get it right. What matters now is that the right decisions are taken, and that the club does all it can to make amends with the fans, the players, and with the media / public perception. There is a scenario where they pull this out of the fire, and we're sat here next may having rebuilt the club and righted these wrongs... but i reckon its about a 10-20% chance, and there is a higher risk that we slip to mid table obscurity or lower, with a poor squad and money wasted, lose the parachute payments, and start sliding quite quickly to oblivion. Its imperative that they sort out the DoF position asap - i.e., if Spors is going, from a purely sporting perspective that needs resolving almost before anything else can happen squad/coaching side.

Could we see JWP returning? 1 year left on his contract and our midfield is about to be decimated.

Leicester have won the premier League, the fa cup, and the championship in recent years 😅.

This is superb.

The sad fact is that he is a very good manager. So silly what has happened. I just cannot see a way for him to stay on sadly.

What chance do they have. They were told until yesterday they were playing Saints, now they have 2 days to prep for the EFL board members club, who conversely have been preparing to play Hull since last tuesday. Shocking. Hull should obviously take their own legal action against the EFL if they are not promoted.

OFC Sheldon is all over this with the initial release. The bloke loves to see saints in the mud.

Steve needs to get pedalling.

Can't not read this in Tessem's voice, absolutely cracked me up 😂

At this point i wouldn't put it past them just to wind us up on here 😂

Can't see it officially reported anywhere

We're the best team in the league, we should be promoted. We've royally screwed ourselves over but i doubt very much we've done anything that most teams weren't doing, and we've clearly been wronged by boro in a stitch up for the ages.

Is this guy reliable?

All the best Whitey.

Have we actually gone for pannick? Can't find it anywhere reliable.