Wes Tender

Well, it was almost invitable. Ultimately the fans who read this forum will select one that they like, a group of them will start singing it at a match and if it gets picked up by others it will stick.

Well, it isn't a sticky and other people are adding other ideas. So what's the point of this additional thread? Whilst I'm about it, I'll add my suggestion from the other thread. It's to the tune of Wild Rover. He played for the Rovers, for many a year he scored many goals that is why he is here Now plays for the Saints do we need we say more? With a striker like him many goals we will score So it's Ricky Lambert Ricky Lambert, you see, (clap,clap) Scoring goals by the hatful For Southampton FC

Nicola Cortese..... a man of his word. That's a novelty around these parts.

Why is there a need for another song for Ricky Lambert thread? Could you please lock this one, Mods?

He played for the Rovers, for many a year he scored many goals that is why he is here He plays for the Saints do we need we say more? With a striker like him many goals we will score So it's Ricky Lambert Ricky Lambert, you see, Scoring goals by the hatful For Southampton FC.

Yes. Good, isn't it? But I suspect that you blue few aren't best pleased that the media have it in for you, according to Storrie teller.

I think that whatever Red and White Army does for a living, Influenced, he is obviously missing his vocation as an Insolvency Practitioner. It seems that he is far better at it than Fry, for a start. Why, in only a few minutes of digging he had exposed Pinnacle to be tyre kickers. Surely that sort of capability ought to be worth hundreds of thousands a year in salary.

Well done CEC for exposing another troll. I have often thought that he only posted to get a rise from others and now you have proved it.

Who are you to make assumptions that Liebherr, Cortese and Oldknow received a kick in the teeth by seeing the crowd rise as one to salute one of the greatest players ever to don the red and white shirt in its entire history? You obviously missed the bit in the media that one reason that Liebherr bought us was because of us, the fans. I'm pretty sure that had our fanbase contained a large proportion of snivelling, antagonistic and snide people like you, he might have thought twice. I take the view that it would have warmed Liebherr's heart to see that despite having proven to have had feet of clay in the Pinnacle affair, Matt was forgiven by all but a small gormless minority (you included, naturally) and warmly embraced by everybody who had fond memories of what he had given us in the past. The fact that Liebherr had not pushed his bid harder when he knew that he was in competition against one of the fans' biggest icons speaks volumes of the humility and sensitivity of the man. I am sure that Liebherr recognises how great an attribute loyalty is and knows that MLT has been one of the most loyal servants the club has ever had. Why should he be upset if we return that loyalty to the memories that MLT gave us? That ovation that MLT received epitomised all that is good about the fans of this club and I have no doubt in my mind whatsoever that Liebherr would not have taken it amiss.

What a refreshing change it is to have this sort of person in charge of running our club. Giant egos nowhere in sight, instead just modest, but very professional people with a vision, who just quietly go about achieving their ambitions, also having the decency along the way to quietly allay the doubts and fears of those who have become cynical over the past decade that this sort of thing could be happening to us. All of a sudden, the dark clouds have vanished and have been replaced with optimism for a bright future. Apart from a few fools who are unecessarily impatient that we haven't yet signed up Football's World stars, there is a unity amongst the fan base that hasn't existed to this extent for years and years.

If the fans of a club from whom we wish to purchase a player are mightily ****ed off, then that bodes well IMO. In the past, when these rumours have surfaced, there is usually a fair amount of comment along the lines that they would offer to drive that player down here themselves.

I voted him MOM too, closely followed by Harding. Both were a tower of strength, but Murty shows such good leadership qualities. If we can keep the CBs fit, we have a pretty decent defence.

Saintbobby said that we might be a division or two above them in 4 years. Whereas the two divisions lead is a bit optimistic, I can well see that we might be a division above them by 4 years.

I had a good view of that pass from behind it in the Northam. It really was a schoolboy error passing right across the front of the penalty area like that. It wasn't as if there weren't options ahead of him up the line, or diagonally forward. OK, everybody makes mistakes, but IMO a player can't be adjudged to be a candidate for man of the match when such a fundamentally crass error led on to Millwall's scoring the equaliser. He has potential to be a good player and good players learn from their mistakes, so I hope I don't see any repeats of that sort of pass from him.

Yes. He just realised that he has to sit next to Jeremy Beadle's son all season.

Seems that some of those professing to prefer the Skates' prospects against ours might well be having a slight rethink since I was last on here late morning. Oh and thanks Daren for clarifying that you meant the mid to long term prospects of both clubs rather than the here and now. I knew what you meant.

Well, that seems to be the destination of choice by the mods for most threads where Pompey are involved, although arguably this is a subtle way of keeping it here, as it is also Saints related.

Read the subject of the thread carefully and then try a see it in the context that I'm sure it was intended, i.e in the perspective of say the next few years. Firstly, it asks "our position or Pompey's" It does not ask who is better off. I agree with you that it is entirely possible, although unlikely that we could be promoted this coming season. Equally, I'd say it was a distinct possibility that the Skates could be relegated this season. Taking that perspective, who is really in the better position if that happened? Secondly, where you asked whether it is better to be where we are over where the Skates are, again, I'm sure that was not the intention of the thread. I agree that somebody would have to stupid not to believe that it was better to be the Premiership than in the third division.

The thread is about us and the Skates and there are particular circumstances prevailing at the moment that make comparisons between two local rivals interesting. Pity that you can't see the relevance of that. If you wish to post your own thread comparing us with other teams several years ago, go ahead.

Some people have such simple minds that they cannot see the point of the original question at all. Perhaps giving them the benefit of the doubt, it was badly worded. I'm pretty sure that the intention of the thread was to look at the wider historical perspective rather than the here and now.Perhaps the OP could clarify that and then those with simpler minds can then post their thoughts in terms of say the next 5 years.

That's why I said that the year after appeared the more likely option.

The season only starts later today, the transfer window is open until the end of the month and after that loans are possible. If you're all for optimism, then you would not be so damned pessimistic now, would you? Like a kid moaning that he hasn't got the presents he wants on Christmas Eve.

The point I made was that those teams you mentioned do not have the precarious fininancial situation that the Skates have. Unless the fake sheik can get somebody with real concrete wealth to come in with him, they will be hampered in their dealings with the replacement players for the family silver quality that they have had to sell. Those other teams have mostly got better stadia with greater capacity and less debt to encumber them.

Ah! There's an echo of previous sentiments in there somewhere from the time that the Lowe Luvvies were decrying the attitude of the pessimists, who preferred to be considered as realists. But I refute your contention that having optimistic fans gets you nowhere. Optimistic fans are more likely to attend matches, pay for merchandise, spread the word amongst friends. Optimistic fans give wholehearted support to the players, who in turn pick up the mood and gain confidence. It's pessimism that is so destructive, but that feeling has disappeared with the departure of the old regime. If you wish to continue feeling pessimistic about our future, go ahead. But don't decry the mood of others who feel that we have a better era ahead of us.

What are you saying? That we'll both be in the Fizzy Pop? Yes, it's possible, although I reckon it'll be the year after. As for the chances of you lot staying in the Premiership, that will be next to impossible if you go into administration and have 9 points deducted. Even those who reckon that there will be three other teams worse than you do not fully take into account that those clubs are in the main better financed than you with less debt and therefore the ability to invest in the better players than you lot can afford. But I admire your optimism, misplaced as it is.