Unbelievable Jeff

Exactly. It's the incredulity that makes me laugh. How can people think that, blah, blah, blah. We don't agree on a lot of things but it doesn't mean you can't respect that persons opinion and argue a point rather than act in flabbergasted disgust and ire.

That's fair enough, but it's not an unrealistic assumption. It's not like I'm saying that the US government have been indirectly funding ISIS or something like that, more that the war on Afghanistan and Iraq, the opening of Guantanamo and related tortures have led to an increase in ISIS members.

Every post he seems exasperated beyond belief, as if there is no chance that it could happen. Like a few people on this site, they just need to open their minds a little bit. Play a bit of devils advocate.

More akin to Bloody Sunday I would say.

Take it up with the bloke on 5live last night, I'm just the messenger. I do however believe that videos of the US atrocities and reports of the tortures in Guantanamo have contributed to the rise of ISIS. Fair enough if you don't believe it has.

Don't answer a question with a question. My point is that they have grown to be a bigger organisation due to these tortures and other US led atrocities.

I believe that people will have joined ISIS based on seeing what happened in Guantenamo, yes.

By rise, I mean expansion, growth etc. How else would you categorise 'rise' in this context?

They recuit new members by showing video's of US atrocities and torture reports from Guantanemo apparently, was listening to it being debated on 5Live last night. The jumpsuits used for the prisoners during beheadings are based on those worn by inmates there.

I can't imagine it's actually that high, but I wouldn't be surprised that it happened. As a worker in central London (I actually work on Oxford Street) I never know how to react to all these foiled plots - on one hand it's good that them people are being found, but on the other hand it is darn worrying that so many are being caught (Pap, I'm sure you'll have an opinion on whether these are actual plots or a certain amount of propaganda to keep us supporting Government actions and further changes to the legal framework around terrorist offences). There have been rumours about Mumbai style attacks, beheadings on the street, further tube bombings. It's not something you can sit and worry about on a day to day basis, but still pretty worrying all the same.

I remember Lowe making a big deal about this when the stadium was built.

The expansion of ISIS has come about based on the torture handed out in Guantanemo. This will cause more issues than the information garnered will solve. Torture is not ok, international law tells us this. This isn't 24 FFS.

For one I presume they have to check if that person is eligible for benefits, and that must take time. I would assume after that it is inefficiency and Government Policy (if it takes that long perhaps they'll forget about it and try to get money another way).

Housing Food (not including alcohol) Clothing And then they can spend on what they want.

Up until Villa we were the only team in the Premiership to not make a mistake leading to a goal. It's just we've had a few in a few games, and our most difficult games at that.

Just out of interest, what did Forster do wrong against City?

What mistakes? We are short of quality in depth. That is something a team like us will never have due to the cost of quality replacements (both transfer fees and wages). Hence, we have to look to the youth team to provide our ultimate depth, as you can expect 2 or 3 injuries at any one time. What would you propose we do?

Should have done better with the second, but Van Persie was UNMARKED. That was the biggest issue.

It depends on other teams fixtures, and I don't know what they are. I can say I reckon there will be about 3 points between 4th and 10th by that time, so somewhere in there.

I preffered 100 perSaint myself. Yet to see what Yuki's personality will be like - but if it's one of Glasgow's I think we can guess. He's obviously missed being a nobhead as he's been very restrained with his Heisenberg login. What I worry about is Glasgow's ability to pay for all these logins. Maybe he'll have to start using a food bank...

Agree with all of this. All we need to be is a bit more clinical and we would have got a number of points out of our last 4 games.

It's like having Papa Waigo, or Guly, or Kanu, or...

Well, that was disappointing.

Predictable.

To be fair, that Barbera Tolley doesn't look like she goes hungry very often... Edit: Actually read past the photo, turns out she has a thyroid issue.