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I have just seen Sunak’s contribution to the Lineker debacle from yesterday. Having sent out his henchmen and women all week to whip up a media frenzy, added and abetted by his right wing media friends, he finally say a few nice things about our Gary then washes his hands of the whole affair by saying it is a matter for the BBC! Why then wheel out the odious Braverman to comment? She even managed to drag in the Holocaust for good measure just to make sure the Jewish contingent were stirred up despite the fact that he only spoke about the language used and said nothing about the Holocaust in his Tweet. If nothing else his point has been proven. This Government helped by the right wing media are playing exactly the same mind games and are trying to manipulate the public in the same way. The sad thing is that we have learned nothing from history and those of a certain mindset, a number who post here frequently, swallow the red meat thrown to them gladly and carry on the job the likes the Daily Mail do through social media outlets. Thank goodness the vast majority seem to have their number and it is good to see the push back against those who continue to propagate the right wing bullshit on here and elsewhere. I think we all know whose names will appear on the posts following this one. The current position appears to be that if anyone associated with the BBC says something supportive of the Government, that falls under the “impartiality” umbrella and they embrace it. If anyone associated with the BBC says something critical of the Government, that falls outside of the “impartiality” umbrella and they work to shut it down. Sound familiar?

So everyone should settle in France? I am sure the French will be delighted that all migrants will have to settle there. You seem completely oblivious to the fact that we take far less migrants than many other countries. Sort of sounds like Braverman has done a job on you and you believe that millions, nay billions of migrants are heading this way.

That was indeed a bizarre statement. Even more so because that statement that it only happened once came from friends and is heresay. If the BBC were truly impartial Bruce should have also said that his ex wife claimed that he hit her all the time for a balanced response. For what is supposed to be a “Lefty” riddled organisation the BBC seem to be terrified of upsetting the Tory government, maybe because the Tories have filled many of the senior management positions with their own supporters? Whatever Government is in power, they are not above scrutiny and criticism from anyone, least of all the publicly owned broadcasting company. Still, the usual Tory tactic of deflection had worked again in that we are all talking about a presenter of a sports programme and not a draconian, inhumane policy brought in to appease the less savoury elements of our society.

I did not say or suggest that they do it for free. You are either being deliberately obtuse or you are not very bright. Given that you have likes from Dumb and Dumber I would favour the latter. Most people with a shred of humanity and compassion can see through the B/S spouted by the likes of Patel, Braverman and even your hero Farage, but you swallow it hook line and sinker. The further right people are from the political centre, the less humane, intelligent and more gullible they seem to become.

But we don’t know until the people are processed about why they are seeking to relocate here. Perhaps the Government should make it easier/possible to apply to resettle here without actually having to be in the country?

Rich? Even the Tory mouthpiece on QT last night started off by saying they were spending their “life savings” on the crossing. These people are risking their lives and some lose them. Shouldn’t that put this into perspective.? And you know full well that the migrants coming here are a small percentage of the total. There are good reasons for people wanting to settle is specific countries from speaking the language to having a support network there of family and friends. Strangely enough, not all migrants want to settle in the UK ( and those wanting to go to Rwanda, wouldn’t they go there first rather than coming here to be sent there later?). So back to the Tory policy of distraction. They and the right wing press have managed to pull it off again. A football programme presenter through one small tweet has managed to displace the actual discussion about the bill has managed to become the story now. How ridiculous is that? When you actually look at what he said he was also spot on. The fact that virtually all of the far right organisations across Europe are lining up to praise the bill should be a major indicator of what is going on here.

I have just read Braverman’s full statement and it contains yet another crass and deliberate use of provocative language. She suggests that migrants are “rich” enough to pay gangs thousands of pounds for a passage across the channel. Rich? If they were “rich” why are they risking their lives in an overcrowded rubber dinghy on frozen seas? If they are so minted, why aren’t they employing the finest lawyers and being flown in by private jets or helicopters? Yet more rhetoric tailored to demonise those seeking safety and a better life. For those who don’t think it is a big electoral issue, it certainly is in my part of Kent where the Tory MPs milk it for all they are worth.

“Horrendous racism?” That’s a bit rich coming from the resident Farage enabler! So which is it Duckie? One minute you are labelling me a pinko liberal and the next you are lumping me in with your coterie of right wing reactionary knee jerkers. You can’t have it both ways buddy. If I am such a horrendous racist how come I spend my time calling out the abhorrent racist policies being pushed by the last two Home Secretaries, Patel and Braverman? Surely if I was such a racist I would be supporting them? If I was such a racist then why would I post in support of minority racial and religious groups? I know logic isn’t the strong point of people who voted for the likes of Johnson and Farage, but surely even you, in your skunk induced haze, can see you are talking “pony”. You are using the same tactic as the people you vote for and Trump use, stick a label on someone that isn’t remotely true but appeals to those of a far right mentality and keep pushing it so that it becomes “true”. It is currently being used to denigrate Keir Starmer with “Lefty Lawyer”. What is a lawyer but someone who applies and upholds the law. Not a bad thing surely? But stick “Lefty” in front of it and suddenly you have a pejorative term and some who becomes, to you lot, an “enemy of the people” (just like the judges who decided that packing asylum seekers off to Africa was not legal). By their own admission the current bill to treat migrants as criminals might fall foul of international law. The law is the law, but all of a sudden, when it doesn’t suit the far right (your) mentality, the “Left” is dragged into the picture and front pages of outrage on the Mail and Express follow like night follows day. I am no more a racist than you are woke as anyone reading this forum for any length of time knows, so carry on calling women “chicks” or “ten pinters”, Irish people “Micks” and anyone left of Genghis Khan “Pinkos” but please engage your brain a bit more before posting such “pony”.

Feel free to show us the post. You are no better than the people you help elect. Spout lies for distraction. If I were a rabid gammon like yourself Duckie, why do you spend so much time attacking me?

Sadly you can’t put the genie back in the bottle. Football has been more about business for some time, but once the big bucks flowed into the game, that was it. To quote The Apprentice, it is all about “numbers” now, everything else is a by-product. It is basic capitalism/Darwinism. Big fish eat little fish and get even bigger. If a super league does happen that won’t be the end of it. There will be plenty of clubs outside of it wanting to get their noses in the trough too and that then will become the Holy Grail for aspirational clubs. You see, there will be plenty of fans berating their Boards for lack of investment in making their club a candidate for the super league. I am just glad that I lived through a period when a club the size of Southampton could beat United in the FA Cup Final and push Liverpool closely for the old Division 1 title.

Biggest dog whistle of the year so far. Yesterday Suella Braverman told us that there are potentially up to 100 million refugees/asylum seekers/illegal immigrants out there…and they “are all coming here”. Gaslighting on an industrial scale. Typical Tory smoke and mirrors, when in trouble play the immigrant card. It got them Brexit and now they are hoping it will take people’s minds off of the mess the country is in. The trouble is some people still buy this crap.

I didn’t think that you were capable of irony Batman, but fair play here.

If only it were that simple but I think that relegation will be a combination of a number of factors - poor recruitment, poor team selections, poor tactics, numerous poor mistakes by a number of different players, injuries to key players. Just to dump most of the responsibility on a goalkeeper who doesn’t have the best defensive cover in front of him is way too simplistic. No club gets relegated because one player has a poor season.

As someone else has pointed out, if we go down this season it isn’t the fault of the goalkeeper. We are struggling because of our inability to score from open play. That is not Bazunu’s fault. I’d be interested to see how many games we have lost that are directly attributable to him rather than defensive errors or missed goal scoring opportunities.

I couldn’t agree more. I had a few nasty knee injuries when I used to play and it makes me cringe every time I see a player do this. Why risk buggering up your knee(s) celebrating a goal? The last thing we need is a self inflicted injury keeping a key player out right now. You get booked for taking off your shirt yet it is ok for multi million pound athletes to risk damaging ligaments with crazy knee slides.

Personally I would rather ditch 4222 and go back to the good old 442

Given how much grief the likes of Redmond and McCarthy got on here before it seems odd to see how they are now being redefined. All I can remember was Redmond getting slagged off constantly and McCarthy getting pelters for being beaten time and again at his near post.

Larios started but only lasted 12 mins. Bree and Edozie the other two playing. Currently 1-0 down.

It was more of a petulant shove/slap than an attempted punch but if that had happened anywhere else on the pitch he would have given a foul and a yellow too. Yes the guy made a meal of it (don’t agree with the commentary team that he was entitled to go down to draw the officials attention to it - he made a meal of it) but what on earth did DCC think he was doing? Having watched it again several times this morning though I would argue that the ref should have blown up for a foul for Grimsby outside the box as DCC had hold of his shirt collar for some time whilst running back towards the goal. I would have given the free kick and booked DCC for the slap. Once again though we have lost a game through the initial team selection. I get the argument that the team, on paper, should be enough to beat Grimsby but we all know about cup banana skins. Making 9 changes was never going to help a cohesive team performance. Make a couple of changes but keep the main balance and then give some of the fringe players some game time if you must once the game is secure. Now we have even more players with low morale and go into the Leicester game with even less confidence when a win last night would have least have given the squad a lift and maybe would have provided a goal or two for our two new main strikers. Selles seems like a nice bloke and it is good to hear that the players like him, but I would prefer a manager that the players feared and respected and was prepared to do what was needed to win the game rather than to give people a game in order to keep them happy. They are professional footballers. If they want to start matches they should put the effort in training and then take their chance when selected. Last night KWP, Lavia, Djenepo, JWP and Walcott all looked the part. The rest were poor, but then how often has this line up taken to the pitch?

Not very good to be honest. But then he was amongst good company.

The first one gets given now. I don’t think it was deliberate but it hit his arm and that it is. The second was stupid. First he held his shirt collar and then he hit him. An international player, a Premiership player, should never, ever do something so stupid. But we didn’t lose because of these penalties. We lost because we have virtually no goal threat. Note to Selles - if you are serious about getting into the quarter finals of the FA Cup, start with your best XI and bring on fringe players later.

You have to enjoy the irony of our latest Tory PM selling the virtues of the Windsor Framework to his party, Parliament, the UK and the Republic of Ireland based on the access to the single market. Three major positives here. It makes the argument for leaving the EU weaker, it makes it less likely for Johnson to make a come back as PM and it will increase the blood pressure of Farage and his fellow gammons. Perhaps England, Scotland and Wales could sign up to the same deal too?

It’s been happening for years. Go check out the fuss over Enid Blyton books which even goes back to the time they were published. Certain things will always trigger certain people. Surely, as one of the most often triggered people on this forum, you of all people should know that!

I don’t think that Ely is a poor player but he just isn’t suited to the pace and the physicality of the EPL. The last 3 successive managers have picked him and whilst it is not entirely down to him that we are rooted to the bottom of the table, surely it is time now to try something different? We have nothing to lose and need to find a way of creating more. That isn’t going to happen if Ely is used as an attacking option.

Looking forward to the point where all Delldays/Batman/AlexLaw76 posts on SaintsWeb are rewritten in order to “protect readers”.