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The whole cabinet is a collection of big tits! Boom boom!

Whilst I don’t want to seem to be putting words into MLGs mouth, to be fair to him I don’t think that his posts have anything to do with the sad death of Ronaldo’s baby other than he has picked up on an aspect of a post about it. It seems to me he has focussed on religious beliefs rather than the tragic incident itself and to use that as an excuse to hurl verbal abuse at someone is also very unsavoury. Yes, he could have come across more sympathetically, but we all know MLG and we know his writing style. I don’t think for one moment he was deliberately being callous, just focussed on his point. Having come very close to losing my first daughter during childbirth I know just what it feels like. If for one minute I thought that MLG was taking a pop at child mortality I would be the first one to say something.

I’ll speak up for you MLG. Most of the people I know don’t believe in God or Jesus but they will wish others a Happy Christmas, send greeting cards, eat Turkey on 25th December, exchange gifts, wish others a Happy Easter and eat chocolate eggs. We go to carol concerts in December because we like Christmas carols and it is part of the seasonal tradition. Nothing to do with believing in the birth of the son of God. I have often share a pint of Guinness with friends on St Patrick’s Day yet none of us are Irish. The people in my local Indian wish me a Happy Christmas in December but are Muslims. It is tradition and it is what most of us do with little thought for all that goes behind it. It has absolutely nothing to do with being a liar or a hypocrite. To pretend it does is just the usual, tiresome wummery. There is no point engaging with a seasoned WUM though MLG. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. I can see why you started this up initially but you must know that the previous posts were just designed to wind you up and really not worth replying to. Nothing gives a WUM greater pleasure than to get a bite but perhaps getting a second bite from the same bait tops it. You have been on here long enough to know how it works. There are some people who love to stir it and will poke away just to get a reaction, and if they can instigate a pile on, their job is done. You will never win. They are not interested in reasoned argument, just the wind up and you are an easy target because you bite every time.

Because it is the right thing to do and they know he isn’t going anywhere but by staying put he is probably going to lose his party more votes so it makes sense to keep chipping away at him but hope that he either doesn’t resign or get kicked out.

Listen to yourself man. I called for overseas clearing stations. This is not a clearing station. Once you get to Rwanda you stay there. If they wanted to seek asylum in Rwanda don’t you think that they would go there in the first place? You know exactly what is going on but just like the people you vote for you argue something completely different to muddy the waters. Just in case you really are that dense, the purpose of overseas clearing stations are to process the claims of seeking asylum in this country to prevent them having to come here to claim asylum. If their applications are successful they would be allowed to come here and settle. With this scheme we send them all the way to Africa where their claims are processed and if successful they get to stay in Rwanda. Not the UK. Rwanda. Go find a post from me that says asylum seekers to the UK need to be settled in Africa if their applications are successful. You are either brain addled by too much weed or you are deliberately on the wind up. You are sounding and behaving more and more like my stalker on here, not a good look Duckie 😘 Enjoy your Easter. At least you get to spend it where you choose to, not a country thousands of miles away at Priti Patel’s discretion.

Surely the point is to make the situation more efficient and better for all (not just the migrants, for the administrators too). Sending them thousands of miles to a country with a poor record of human rights and leaving them there when they are applying to come here might appeal to the likes of Johnson, Patel, their cronies and the right wing xenophobes (feel free to include yourself in this list Duckie) but the point is to make things better for migrants, not worse. Clearly the plan is to make things even harder for migrants so as to deter them from wanting to come here in the first place. As I said before, it plays well with the gammons but, unsurprisingly, anyone with a shred of common decency is calling it out for what it is. My posts have been about making it easier for migrants to apply for asylum here, not Rwanda. I am not sure how that is a reversal of my position? With you level of understanding perhaps you are seeking a job with Priti Patel?

How many thousand miles is Rwanda away? Not only that, there is no coming back here if your application is successful. You stay there in a country with an appalling human rights record. If we can set something up there why can’t we do so closer to home, like Calais? We used to send people we didn’t want here to Australia and before that, the Americas. Now, in the 21st century we are doing it again, only to Africa. Still, it will play well with you gammons.

He supported Johnson as leader of the Tory party, mainly due to his Get Brexit Done mantra (we are still waiting). To be fair he does call the current lot pinkos but then Duckie is quite far right. He still can’t bring himself to condemn this shameless lot though, even though the radio chat shows have been full of callers saying they voted for the Tories and are embarrassed to say so now. It is just one embarrassment after another. wTF is going on with the Rwanda deal? It seems like a never ending episode of Inside No 9. This has gone way beyond party politics. We need a PM with conviction, integrity and a backbone in times like these, not a spineless, self serving, inept, embarrassing, morally bankrupt Trumplite charlatan. It’s hard to imagine a worse time to have this PM and his bunch of incompetents in the cabinet in power. Sadly people like Duckie still can’t find it in their hears to call Johnson out for what he is. The best he can do is call him a pinko (which is so far wide of the mark it’s embarrassing). Johnson does what is best for Johnson. He resonates with selfish people who cannot see what is wrong with living your life putting yourself first and everyone else be damned. Thatcher (whom Duckie still idolises) made it ok to be greedy. Jonson makes it ok to be selfish and shameless. Throw in Brexit making it ok to be xenophobic and nationalistic and you have a once decent country gradually turning into a paradise for a-holes. We can only hope that the vast majority who fell for his guff can now see what they let themselves and the country in for and change their votes accordingly when the times come. Duckie , sadly, is a lost cause.

Given that you voted for him it’s a shame you don’t stay home more, especially on voting days.

I wrote to my MP about the Johnson situation and said that he needs to resign. This is the reply - Thank you for writing to me about the fixed penalty notice issued to the Prime Minister in 12th April. I very much appreciate your anger. The PM has rightly apologised for the events that took place at 10 Downing Street. He should never have been put in that position and that is why reform was needed in the way Downing Street is run. it is not my view that the PM should resign. It is now time to get on with the job of levelling up, boosting the economy and the NHS after the pandemic and leading global efforts to support Ukraine. He has my full support. Yours sincerely, Damian Collins. What a spineless toad. So the fault lies with anyone else apart from the man running the country and setting the rules. Disgraceful. Sadly he has a safe seat so will probably not be affected by the fall out.

He not only has broken the law, he has broken one that he implemented. I think it is a given that he has to resign now but knowing what a brazen bastard he is no doubt he will try and tough it out. He has already prepared the ground by saying that he had been misadvised. Not that he held any moral high ground before, but how can he maintain his position now that he is a proven liar and law breaker? He has to go. Now.

We are not talking about a full scale invasion of Russia here, but other practical help for the military. Assistance from the RAF would make a massive difference to their defence capabilities and remember this is defensive action, not offensive action. The SAS could cause havoc with the Russians trying to regroup. At the very least we, European nations, could provide a lot more in the way of hardware. We are told that they are running out of ammo. Why? What are we going to use ours on? refugees crossing the channel? If it is true that chemical weapons are being used, having said we would up the anti, it is time to do it don’t you think? Not that is should make any difference. It’s the butchery that is the issue here, not what methods they are using to kill people.

Why Biden? We signed up to protecting Ukraine when they gave up their nukes, perhaps we should do something about it with a few other invested European nations? This is on our doorstep. If NATO continue to ignore Putin’s aggression then perhaps we should look to operate outside of the NATO alliance? I’m sure we are all sick to death watching the nightly news reports of murders and rapes and Ukrainian people who were bank clerks a few weeks ago now fighting on the front line and running out of things to fight with. I get that politically we are shit scared of getting involved in WW3, but how can any civilised nations, especially those with the firepower we have in the west, sit back and allow this destruction of an independent nation in our own backyard?

Or if you think he is talking rubbish then say so. Freedom of speech and all that.

He is now trying to conflate Gary Lineker’s response to the Daily Mail getting the information wrong about his situation with his ex wife to his own position (as was) about the news from the Russian invasion of Ukraine. He really seems to have lost the plot.

I can find another one. I couldn’t get a stream so didn’t get to see it!

To be fair, we were all thinking the same thing.

Like many people, I get my news input from many different sources. Still not able to tell me when you were supposed to have met me? Perhaps you were mistaken?

You think that existed on the Murdoch owned channels? Given you seem to get your information mainly from Twitter, people in glass houses… By the way if we are talking about fake news, have you managed to decide where you have met me yet?

Indeed, although plain abusive posts aren’t exclusive to football forums. I am on and have been on other chat forums, WhatsApp groups and FB groups where WUMs and trolls are just as prevalent and disruptive. I don’t think that they are remotely interested in the topics being discussed, I think they are just looking to wind people up. We all remember people like that from school but in those days everybody knew who they were. Now people hid behind their keyboards and bully anonymously because they know they can get away with it. Some also seem to think it is perfectly ok to have multiple log ins. Unless you had serious mental health issues, why on earth would you bother? We are all old enough and ugly enough to debate and disagree without descending into childish abuse and strange stalking behaviour surely?

I admire your patience. There is a good discussion to be had about the media, especially with the growth and impact of social media over recent times, but sadly this guy will always ruin it. As you have discovered, he has certain targets and will follow them around and jump all over their posts constantly. He used to do it on another forum until he was kicked off. It is basic narcissism. It had to be all about him. He is loving this, not because he cares particularly about the subject, but because it gives him another opportunity to troll and make himself look special. The only problem is that he makes himself look “special.” Anyway, having work in the media for 30 years (The Times pre Murdoch, The Guardian & Observer, The Daily & Sunday Telegraph and The Spectator under Johnson) I can say that our media isn’t that bad. We know where the owners of the various newspapers and radio stations are pitching their wares - mostly right wing - but I am sure that the majority of fairly intelligent people can understand that it probably isn’t wise to rely on just one source if you want to get beyond certain agendas. Sadly when it comes to issues like Brexit, it is clear that there was a large swathe of people who wanted to hear nothing but bad about the EU, so we had Johnson peddling rubbish about straight bananas etc which went down a storm, but with a big of digging was clearly just bollocks. I have finally given up listening to TalkSport after years of listening to utter drivel (apart from Hawksby & Jacobs) and am now listening to LBC. From what I have heard so far it is precisely the kind of channel that would have our mutual stalker reaching for his phone to text but you just know that if picked up the phone and spoke to any of these people, his arguments would melt faster than Matt’s last attempt to convince us that we can’t trust “the media.” We are swamped now with “opinions” dressed us as facts. You would think that a reasonably intelligent person would be able to tell the difference but reading forums such as these, that is usually not the case. John Crace makes a good job of dissecting government members in his Guardian columns but these are clearly just his opinions on the likes of Johnson, Patel, Sunak, Raab etc and if you go to the Mail or Expresz you will find other providing a more positive view. You pays yer money and you takes yer choice. After working for The Guardian for so many years it was a real culture shock to end up at The Spectator! If it did one thing though it was to reinforce my dislike of a certain type of right winger. It doesn’t hurt to venture off into scary territory (although perhaps not as far as The Sun) if for no other reason than to test out your own prejudices. Talking to someone last night he was saying that he didn’t want opinions, just facts, and he would then form his own opinions. Perhaps that is the way to go, but it is human nature to take “facts” run them through our own filters and then present to anyone willing to listen our own interpretation of those “facts” (hence sites like these, radio show phone ins etc) so I think that we are more interested in opinions after all. Nothing wrong with an expect of opinions. The trouble is more and more we have people who have to go further and turn it into a battle of the ego. You then end up with petty point scoring and abuse which totally detracts from the initial aim of just sharing a take on a given situation. I don’t agree with everything you say but at least you try and keep things civil, present your points well and argue your corner in a clear and reasonable manner. Sadly that seems to wind up a few of the keyboard warriors here and it doesn’t take long before it all turns to crap again, but stick with it. It makes a pleasant change to find a poster who wants to engaged in a reasonable debate instead of passing their time looking for people to wind up.

Sums it up pretty well for me https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/matt-le-tissier-southampton-bucha-tweet-b2052348.html?amp

It’s time all of the big powers put their big boy pants on and realised that, if the UN is ever going to be as influential as it should be, they are going to have to make some very grown up decisions. There have been countless wars and conflicts since the end of WW2. It is is everyone’s interest to live in peace and to get along with each other. This means dealing with issues through the UN and abiding by its decisions. The more the UN has the power to deal with international issues the less we need to rely on NATO and nukes. I realise it is a big ask, but if the UN had real power and the ability to bring some kind of United crippling sanctions to any country stepping out of line we would all be in a better place. Putin wouldn’t need his “buffer states” and would have no cause to worry about supposed aggression and expansion from NATO. We now have more countries wanted to sign up to NATO which will only cause more tension between the West, Russia and China. We need to find another, better way.

100% this. As long as aggressors can veto moves against their own aggressive actions the UN will always be hamstrung and unable to act to stop similar acts.

Like others I gave MLT a pass over Covid but he has really lost the plot big time and is making David Icke look rational. I supported him when some were calling for him to be kicked out of being an ambassador for the club, but he can seriously do one now. At what point are the West going to do something more substantial to stand up to this genocide? NATO or no NATO, at what point does intervention based on a humanitarian basis kick in? Give them tanks, planes, what ever they need FFS. As for you Turkish, I saw your post quoted on another post. You really are a deeply troubled individual aren’t you? Only you could post such a crass comment on a thread like this. Perhaps save your childish attempts at point scoring jibes for less serious threads?