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I called for Johnson to resign because he made the rules and broke them multiple times (which was pretty obvious even to a dyed in the wool gammon like you). Johnson should resign for lying to Parliament. As for “Beergate.” Durham police had already investigated it and found that no rules had been broken. Now, having been hounded by the right wing press for days, they have given in and are doing so again. Let’s wait and see what this “new evidence” is shall we? Not sure how you manage to equate this non event with the litany of mismanagement, corruption, lies etc carried out by Johnson and his government over the last few years, but that is what you do. The important thing that happened yesterday is that, finally, the penny is dropping and people are turning against this disaster our government. You carry on knocking one out to “Beergate.” It’s all you’ve got.

Only you Batman, only you.

I think we have seen that “charisma” itself isn’t such a big deal. Starmer may lack it, but we won’t know if he or his government will be crap at the job until they do it. It is clear that one party wants to do something about the plight of most of us and another are just looking to put sticking plasters on the would whilst looking after the most well off. I’d rather have a PM who listened to the problems and tried to do something about them for everybody (which I think Starmer will try to do) than this bunch of self serving incompetents who clearly don’t give a stuff about us. We know the current government are crap because they prove it every day. We won’t know if the opposition are crap until they do the job themselves.

Hearing a lot from Johnson supporters that we need his “bold” leadership. Really? Probably the worst PM in living history leading the most inept cabinet in living history. Starmer’s problem will be hoovering up enough of the protest votes to make a difference. As we know, the first past the post system works better for the Tories than it does for the opposition parties and I’d like to see Starmer work closely with Davey up to get this dreadful government out. No surprise to see LibDems picking up a lot of Tory defectors, but splitting the vote only helps Johnson. The cost of living crisis is already hitting hard but the worst is to come. At some point even the most blinkered of Tories must see that “ordinary” people have been screwed over time and again by these people and it is time to take their votes elsewhere.

Just watched the Johnson interview with Susanna Reid. I bet he wished he had found another fridge to hide in. How is this man still in the job?

Any cunning plan devised by this cabinet carries less weight than all of Baldrick’s put together.

Apparently the traffickers are bumping up trade telling people they need to cross before the scheme kicks in. Not true as it is retrospective but desperate people will do desperate things. According to the i tomorrow the whole plan is a complete mess anyway (what a surprise). Johnson making a complete fool of himself yet again by responding to claims that pensioners are spending all day on buses because it is warm and they can’t afford to heat their homes by boasting that it was he that provided them with travel passes! Beyond parody.

Careful or you will have the usual suspects jumping all over you telling you that you don’t know the difference between a general election and local elections! I agree though that if the Tories loose large numbers of seats and control of local councils the pressure will mount on Johnson. He will no doubt brush it off as mid terms blues, promise to double down and focus on the important issues of the day (shagging, photo opportunities, finding new ways of not resigning etc.) and carry on being just as deceitful and as useless as before. The question is at what point will those who pull the strings within the party say enough is enough? Their golden boy waiting in the wings has blotted his copy book and there doesn’t seem to be another leader in waiting lined up yet (please don’t mention Truss, Dorries, Raab, in fact any of those who have had a high profile under Johnson). It is depressing to think that we have another two years of this but if the Great British public can be arsed to get out of their collective armchairs and stupor this Thursday maybe we will have a reason to be a bit more optimistic about the future come Friday morning.

Another classic cock up from the person who revealed that she didn’t have a clue how Channel 4 is funded when she announced that it would be privatised. It makes you wonder how members of our current cabinet manage to dress themselves in the morning. Another day, another gaff. Sad thing is there are still some who will be saying, yeah, but look at the lack of opposition and keep voting for them 🙄. A compelling case for Darwinism if one were needed.

254 asylum seekers attempted to cross the English Channel in small boats/dinghies yesterday. Seems like Priti Patel’s cunning plan to deter them hasn’t got off to the most auspicious start.

There is a new narrative that paints Chamberlain in a different light. Not seen the film yet but apparently it is saying that Chamberlain’s appeasement policy helped in buying time to arm the country as we weren’t ready militarily or mentally for a war with Hitler. In the year or so before war finally broke out the RAF, for example, was able to build enough planes to mount a reasonable defence against the Luftwaffe. There was a greater fear about Communism and Hitler was seen as being a force against that. There was no appetite for war after WW1, especially to protect a far off land like Czechslovakia ( echos of Ukraine) and the western alliance, at that point, was weak. So while trying to prevent a major war in Europe, he also paved the ground for fighting one if certain historical perspectives are to be believed. Munich - The Edge of War is the film. Let’s just hope that history doesn’t repeat itself, but there are many parallels between Hitler’s aims for Germany and Putin’s for Russia, not to mention the Western stance so far in allowing Putin to takes what he wants by military force.

I’m dopey? You are one of the fools who voted this lot in and continue to support them despite everything. And yes you weed crazed person, I do understand the different between local elections and the General Election. I think you have lost it Duckie, you are beginning to make even Turkish sound like an intellectual giant. Lay off the puff mate.

I see the Mail and Express are doing their level best again today to try and deflect from the awful mess the Tories are making from running the country. The Express going as far as saying that we are not bothered by Partygate any more (described by Rees-Mogg as “fluff”) as if we can’t focus on more than one major issue at a time. Well, everyone I listen to radio phone in shows or watch current affairs shows like QT, Partgate clearly hasn’t gone away nor people’s anger and the public clearly want action taken. I just hope that people turn out to the polls next week and give this bunch the hiding they deserve, not that anything will change. Johnson will say he has listened to the public and will make changes, but nothing will change. He will carry on lying and being useless whilst everything turns to shit around him. I don’t know what is worse, the fact that he and his crap cabinet are still here or that some people still insist on supporting them in the face of overwhelming evidence that they are morally bankrupt and useless at their jobs. If they get themselves voted back in at the next General Election there is truly no hope for this country.

So Neil Parish “may” have opened and looked at porn “by mistake” in the Commons but he won’t know if it was a mistake until the inquiry tells him if it was or wasn’t. The bar just keeps getting lower. The days when MPs did the honourable thing and resigned are long gone. Now they stick it out as long as they can in the hope that it will all blow over or that something will happen to save their sorry arses. As has been said many times, a fish rots from the head down and they take their example from the PM. The Tories are trying to spread the muck wider in the hope that poor behaviour will be seen as a cross party issue. Clearly it isn’t just the preserve of the Tory Party but it is hard to think of a PM, cabinet and party who have racked up so many incidents of questionable behaviour and decision making than this one. Johnson always wanted to go down in history as another Churchill. Sadly for him and the country he will be remembered, but for all the wrong reasons.

Depends whether you go with the Daily Mail or the Daily Mirror Batman. Clearly in your case the Mail. Interesting that the Tory MP kicking off about Starmer did exactly the same thing a week before. Who is looking like a bellend? https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tory-mp-who-wants-police-26826391.amp

Which was my point.

Whilst the world is going to hell in a handcart The Sun decide to give their front page tomorrow over to the massive news that James Corden is giving up his US tv show to spend more time in the UK 🙄

Close run thing between KWP and JWP for me but over the whole season I think KWP has been the more consistently good player, on either flank too.

Nothing to do with being in a camp. It was funny as are the many cock ups in mens football. The point was that these things happen in both men’s and women’s football, not just in women’s football.

C’mon Duckie, you know as well as I do that both of our keepers have gifted very soft goals to the opposition and as said, there is plenty of evidence on YouTube of male professional footballers making equally big howlers. I do agree that the standard of woman's goalkeeping does need to improve in general, but massive howlers can be replicated in men’s professional football right up to the Premier League and International stages too. I can imagine plenty of women footballers watching the 2 goals we let in against Brighton and wondering how a Premier League football team could defend so ineptly. Ings would have been proud of Salisu’s finish and Forster handed them the first on a plate.

You really do have a problem with women, sorry, “chicks” don’t you Duckie?

To be fair we have seen cock ups on a similar scale by both Forster and McCarthy.

Sadly narcissists are everywhere. If it isn’t bad enough having one as PM we have to put up with them infecting our football forums too. The last time I drank whisky it made me ill so I avoid it now.

Who gets to decide who is an idiot? Does not thinking that Broja is the next Ronaldo make you an idiot? Does being a “pinko” make you an idiot? To some apparently. As for strangers, meeting someone and interacting with them in real life is far different to responding to them on the internet. If this was a pub I’m sure most people would be far more civil to each other. Yes, there is always the person who has to take things too far, but I think there would be less personal abuse. As for forums, I guess it is all about what you want from them. I am sure places exist for those hankering after the days when you could be non PC to your hearts content. If that is what you want, go there, don’t try and turn something into something else to suit your own agenda (not you personally). I used to lurk on TUI. What a strange place that used to be. The only thing worth reading for me were the posts from Nick who seemed to have a reasonable and balanced view about the club. At one point it just became a battle ground between two posters having an ego driven ITK battle which became tiresome (unless that type of thing is what you are looking for). Fortunately a few posters were banned and although it has become quite bland now, most of the toxicity has gone and apart from a couple of anti vax conspiracy theorists spoiling a few threads, you aren’t likely to get heavy verbal abuse just for having a different opinion. Perhaps there should be an additional section after the Lounge here, the Saloon Bar, where people who want nothing more than to wind each other up and call each other cunts can spend their time and let everyone else get on with exchanging views without the bs? Pretty much every forum I have read have had trouble with WUMs and trolls. It’s a shame but it seems to be part of the human condition in some to ruin things for others under the guise of rooting out WUMs and trolls themselves when they are a source of the problem (again, not aimed at you personally).

Every forum I have ever read has been spoiled by WUMs and trolls eventually. That included a mental health support group that started out brilliantly until a few members turned on another and then it was all downhill. All of the Saints football forums I have read over the years have been spoiled by a few posters who are just there on the wind up. Not surprisingly, when these characters are removed, the forums improve. I agree with the view that transgressors should be sanctioned. I don’t think a rest period will deter the everyday WUM but limiting the number of posts each day for some might prevent the way some threads deteriorate. In the Lounge it says abuse is not tolerate but the verbal abuse towards one poster recently went way too far and amounted to bullying. Would you call a complete stranger in a pub a cunt to his face if he disagreed with you? Having been on the receiving end of a few pile ins over the years I can testify that it isn’t very pleasant. I haven’t paid my fiver because, for a fee, I expect better moderation of the board. Unfortunately the ignore function doesn’t work particularly well. You still get to see a person’s post if someone else quotes it and they are on your ignore list. I have sympathy for the mods as I know it must be difficult to keep an eye on every thread all of the time, but this forum gets ruined by the amount of personal abuse that gets thrown around and something needs to be done. It doesn’t help that previously banned members just rejoin under a different name. If you are going to charge for a forum then you need to provide a better service than all of the other free forums. In an ideal world people would self moderate and walk away from a thread when it started to get unpleasant. Unfortunately we don’t live in an ideal world and the people who just follow others round deliberately looking for a wind up need to be dealt with.