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Absolute pony. As someone who grew up in the 60’s and 70’s I can tell you that racism, homophobic and all that crap was was endemic in my peer group so please don’t pretend it was just the older generation. Yes there were plenty of liberal “woke people too, but the Gammon attitudes crossed all age groups in the 60’s and 70’s. The reason people did speak up against it was because you were seen as odd if you supported black people, gay people, bigots. Alf Garnet was supposed to be a figure of ridicule but many laughed with him instead of at him. Fortunately many people who grew up in the 60’s and 70’s have changed with the times but some, strangely, still call women “chicks” and anyone slightly left of centre “pinkos.” Before you go off one one, just think back to the jokes being told in the playgrounds in those days. They were all racist, sexist and homophobic. The sort you and your crowd probably still tell in your local Duckie. There were plenty of young people throwing bananas on the pitch at football matches. This country was full of bigots of all ages in the 50’s, 60’s and 70’s. One of the major changes now is if you call out bigotry you get labelled as a “snowflake” or “woke” as if standing up against that kind of thing is bad. Bigotry sucked in the last century and it sucks now. Thankfully more people are prepared to call it out for what it is now, despite those who put more effort into poking fun at “snowflakes” rather than dealing with the actual bigotry itself. These people thrive on todays social media where they can operate with complete anonymity behind a keyboard. We have two people on this forum who think it is amusing to use a doctored picture of someone who made comments about racist remarks as their avatars. Tells you all you need to know about how bigotry is still enabled in this country

Let’s play another game. Who can name a poster who has been banned twice but keeps coming back with a new name and swears blind he is not Delldays and Batman? Further clues, yeah but Corbyn, yeah but Starmer, the king of Whataboutery, spends his days trawling Twitter and other internet cess pools for random crap which supports his own warped world view, makes Turkish look almost reasonable in comparison. No prizes, but if you are the first name pulled out of the hat you get to choose his next username. 😎

I think 3 kits is taking the piss but don’t have a problem with the club changing the look regularly. They need to raise revenue and this is an obvious way to do it. If you don’t like it, don’t buy it. If you think it is a rip off, don’t buy it. I was talking to an 18 year old Chelsea supporter the other day, not only does he buy the complete full kits every year but he also buys the training kits and leisure wear. You’d think he would have better things to spend his money on at that age, but it is his choice.

As someone on another forum posted, had a footballer been given a bj by his latest squeeze while his wife was being treated for cancer and tried to get her a job at his club it would be all over the tabloids in banner headlines. Mind you, his supporters don’t seem to care what he does anyway. It has become priced in. Oh, that’s just cuddly old Boris. At least he got Brexit done. As you say, if these things were done by Corbyn, Starmer, Abbot etc the right wing media would be all over it. If Starmer and Rayner are issued with fines for their curry night (why does it take the police so long to investigate and come to a conclusion?) you just know there will be a feeding frenzy on them but Johnson will again, get away with it.

Or barely feeds them.

I keep hearing the word “deterrent” used but it isn’t is it? Putin is doing exactly whatever he wants to do because he knows we won’t fire first and he has convinced us he is mad enough to fire first. He has deployed chemical weapons in a NATO country and we have done nothing. War is waged in many different ways now. The MAD strategy is now archaic and is actually working against us because our adversaries know that we will never use our nuclear weapons first. What is mad is to spend an absolute fortune on weapons our enemies know we will never use. If they ever decide to fire first, the so called deterrent will have failed as there will be little left our end to fight for and possibly nothing left to fight with. If Russia develop a first strike capability that leaves us incapable of striking back we are screwed. It is 2022 and we have moved a long way forward since the MAD strategy of the 40’s and 50’s. Putin knows exactly what he is doing and is using our fear of a nuclear escalation against us.

It is still UK sovereign territory. We were told at the time it was like Argentina invading the Isle of Wight. How many times have we had terrorist attacks in mainland Britain? Countries like Germany, Italy and Spain get along without them just fine don’t they?

You sound like you disapprove about our support for the Ukrainian war effort? Perhaps their need is currently greater than ours? As for our defensive capabilities, surely as long as we keep our commitment we are fine? After all, all that money spent on Trident isn’t wasted is it? Here’s a thought for you, channel the money from nuclear weapons that clearly are not working as a deterrent (Falklands, various European conflicts) into more practical defence measures.

Ale house? You are becoming more like Jacob Rees-Mogg every day Duckie.

Ok, that’s freaky. Duckie and Delldays/Batman/Alex have finally morphed into one another. No surprise though! I can just imagine them back in the 70’s snuggling up with pints of Watneys watching episodes of Love Thy Neighbour. Anyway, didn’t get to see The Beatles as I was 12 when they quit touring in 1966. Not disappointed as the screaming was a bit off putting. My first gig though was T.Rex not long after they changed from being a hippy band into teenyboppers so didn’t exactly avoid crowds of screaming hysterical girls. When The Beatles broke up in 1970 there were so many other great bands emerging that I wasn’t particularly interested in following their solo careers. It wasn’t until 1990 that I finally got to see Paul McCartney on his first major solo tour after Wings at the Wembley Arena. He had a great band and the set list was awesome. Plenty of Beatles stuff and the best from the Wings era and his solo stuff at that point. It was probably the next best thing to seeing The Beatles although the harmonies were never going to be the same. Great gig. If you are into that stuff The Bootleg Beatles also do an amazing job of recreating that music. They put on a terrific show too which transports you back to the 60’s. Happy days! Mind you, nostalgia ain’t what it used to be 😎

I was told that….. the easiest way to spread and feed an agenda is to post unsubstantiated rumours on social media. Best advice, when someone starts off a post with “I was told that” just assume that it has come from someone who is just shit stirring. As for the manager, as has been said, if he is really that bad at many aspects of his job, how crap must the new owners be for not recognising that and shipping him out with the rest of the coaching team at the earliest opportunity?

Surely he is not going to adjust to playing in the EPL unless he plays in the EPL (with either us or another EPL team). Can’t see the point of him going to the Championship on loan. So he scores a few goals and gets his confidence back but you would assume he had plenty of confidence when signing from Blackburn. One of his problems seemed to be taking half a second longer in getting his shots away in the Prem, in other words, not shooting as instinctively as he did for Blackburn. Hopefully the new coaching team can sort this out and we will get the goal scorer we thought we had signed. Ralph has intimated that he is a long term project.

The guy might have turned 80 years old and his voice may be going, but what a show he put on at Glastonbury tonight. I was in tears when he sang Something and in floods when he duetted with Lennon. Throw in Dave Grohl and Bruce Springsteen and some of the greatest music ever written.. what a night. The guy is a legend.

A lady I work with has very dark skin and black hair. She has a foreign sounding name. She has a London (not cockney) accent and is British through and through in her DNA. She lives in a very middle class Kent town.She gets what would be described as racist abuse on a regular basis. I had darkish skin and dark hair and have a foreign sounding name. I was born in London and my family were born in London as far back as we can find. As a kid new teachers when going through the register for the first time each new school year would stop at my name, ask me to stand up and ask if I was foreign. Not great as a kid when you just want to blend in and not become a target for bullying. Fortunately I managed to avoid the worst of the bullying but it did make me a target and I was picked on in racist terms during my early years in secondary school. I am not pretending what I faced occasionally was anything like that of ethnic minorities and nor is Lineker, but most of us understand that there are people in this world who love to pick on people because they are different and you can’t be much more different in much of this country by having black or brown skin. I listened to a radio programme yesterday where the point was made why would you boo at people demonstrating against racism (footballers taking the knee) unless you had some sympathy for racism? If you share the views of non racists, why call out those demonstrating against racism? The same applies here. There are dozens of things to get agitated about on a daily basis, not least the latest news about our Prime Minister, his cabinet and how self serving and useless they are yet some people take the time and trouble to call out an individual for talking about racism and his experience of it. Apparently is is a reason to make fun of someone. One individual even goes as far, to deflect from this, by talking about the person’s “jug” ears. That’s ok then. 🙄

And “chicks” aren’t a human gender Duckie. Here’s one for you Batman. Today on LBC presenter James O’Brien referred to Priti Patel as a “brown lady.” I know how you love a bit of faux outrage about non-existent racist terms so I thought you would like to know.

Far right wing, Nigel Farage worshipping poster finds racism funny shocker!

Wrong choice for your new avatar Duckie. You should have used Jim Davidson.

Judging by the number of people who called a phone in about the effect of Brexit on their small businesses in this country it has royally shafted them. I do some part time work for a small business and the price of materials have gone through the roof and delivery times are all over the place. What used to take days now takes weeks.

Did you actually read what he said before you posted your (usual) asinine, knee jerk reaction? Any attempt to discuss racism seriously sadly attracts people like you like moths to a flame. Out of interest, do you think it is ok for people to be bullied or discriminated against just because they look different?

Yes I have. If you bothered to read anything properly anybody ever says that disagrees with the Delldays/Batman narrative you would have notice a response in my post at 17:58 yesterday. (Given that you don’t not respond to most of the points put to you, you have a bit of a cheek calling me out for not responding).

Stuck record? I have answered that question even though your effort at point scoring was ruined by you trying to conflate two completely different set of circumstances. But let’s play it your way shall we? What are you thoughts on people who constantly go on social media and write posts deflecting from the main issues? Does the Tory Party pay you to do this? What are your thoughts on people in full time employment having to use food banks? What are your thoughts on Alexander Johnson’s lack of ethics? What are your thoughts on people who get kicked off of football forums and return prestending to be someone else? What are you thoughts on someone holding the position of Home Secretary having found to have bullied staff and not resigned? Anyone can play this game. It is not difficult is it? The thing is Delldays/Batman, you clearly have no problem lying (your claim not to be Delldays/Batman. Your claim to have met me despite not be able to say where and when) so it comes as no surprise that you support people with no ethics, zero moral compasses and a complete lack of humanity. Off you go now, back to trawling Twitter for more spurious half truths and nonsense to back up arguments that do not exist other than in the fantasy world of a superhero wannabe.

I haven’t read it. If I had why would I be asking you for more information? As for housing any refugees. No. Have you? What has that to do with the Government policy to ship asylum seekers in the UK to Rwanda? Surely I would need to buy a property in Rwanda and house them there to fall in with Patel’s great plan (or should I say cunning plan as it has Baldrick written all over it). As I am sure you understand, this plan has nothing to do with making it easier to deal with asylum seekers here and everything to do with trying to deter them in the first place. Those successful won’t even get to live here but thousands of miles away in Africa. If they wanted to resettle in Rwanda, don’t you think they would go there rather than risk their lives on the English Channel? This is classic Johnson politics, deal with the issue by not actually dealing with it. In this case, it also involves not dealing with it by sending it somewhere else (on another continent, no less) and paying others deal with it for him. It makes no difference whatsoever if I house or don’t house any refugees. This government doesn’t want them here (unless they are Ukrainian of course which are the only acceptable refugees in the current Johnson populist catalogue of tick box politics) which fits right in with the xenophobic types (ring any bells Batman) who lap up the Take Back Control of our Borders rhetoric. When you get banned again perhaps you should come back next time as NigelFarage2016? Please don’t bother to come back with more deflection tactics. This is a UK issue (remember, we got our country back). These people have chosen, for whatever reason, to seek safe haven in this country - “this” being the operative word. Instead of kicking the issue into the long grass, in this case Africa, Johnson and Patel need to put their mighty intellects into to sorting out the mess that is the basic asylum seeking process in this country. They could start by treating these people as human beings and not just as unwanted statistics.

It is hard finding information about it. Perhaps you could enlighten us on the numbers and the particular countries involved, the background and circumstances? As ever though you change the narrative and don’t deal with what is being said. What has this got to do with Johnson and the cabinet being crap, the Tories being self centred and not bothered about anyone other than themselves? I”ll humour you though. It doesn’t take much imagination to work out that if I disagree with the basic policy of shipping people who seek asylum in the UK off to Rwanda that, depending on the circumstances, I wouldn’t agree with people seeking asylum in other countries being packed off to Rwanda either. I look forward to you providing the information that the EU and UN are mirroring the policy recently brought in by Johnson and Patel in the UK.

Many people vote to improve the society in which they live because they believe that it will benefit them and their loved ones overall as well. Of course there are those who don’t give a stuff about anybody else so long as they are ok. They are called Tories. Then you get those who take it one step further and actively, deliberately vote for policies that make other people’s lives worse. They are called Facists. Fortunately these people are very easy to spot. At the moment you can find them all over social media supporting Priti Patel and her Rwanda policy. They also use terms like “Pinko” to denigrate anyone with a moral compass.

If Ronald McDonald was a footballer?