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I get laughing emojis when I post about the movement to the far right in Europe - https://www.politico.eu/article/marine-le-pen-national-rally-eu-parliament-far-right-patriots-for-europe/ Right on cue 🙄

I would label George Osborne a clueless twat.

The LibDems have been calling for PR for decades. There are organisations in this country who have been pushing for PR for years. I think you will find that more than one bloke on a football forum are pushing for electoral reform, whether we actually get it or not.

Go and read up about the referendum on PR. It wasn’t actually about PR.

We are providing arms, ammunition and training troops. As I have been told many times when saying Trident is a waste of money, if we send in troops it will trigger WW3. What do you suggest we do?

The real question is what happens next if Russia is seen to benefit from their actions. There are plenty of counties within Putin’s striking distance who are rightly very concerned about what happens next if he gets away with invading Ukraine.

Marine Le Pen’s father was leader of the French National Front. There is a very thin line between the far/hard right politics and fascism. It isn’t all about jackboots and swastikas.

Appeasement worked so well on the past…oh

Looks like Welington has given us the boot. Off to Torino instead?

Just heard that my niece got a 1st at Leeds Uni 🥳 Both my nieces and all three of my daughters have now got 1sts. God knows where they got their brains from. Happy days!

My exact words were “Sunak kept that one quiet.” The only thing I am implying is that he kept that one quiet. I’m not sure how that then becomes the story was suppressed but if that’s your interpretation so be it. Sadly now the whole point of the original article has been lost over a pointless argument. For those interested, this is what it is about. https://amp.theguardian.com/law/article/2024/jul/08/labour-expected-to-drop-challenge-to-icc-over-netanyahu-arrest-warrant

That doesn’t mean that it is a good system or that it can’t be changed. If we believe in democracy then FPTP is clearly not very democratic. I don’t know what the answer is but do believe that an independent body should be commission to look into our electoral system and to make recommendations that should then be put to the country. If FPTP is still the preferred method then at least it is down to the will of the people. It will also be more robust than the previous referendum which was a sham. https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jul/08/disproportionate-uk-election-results-boost-calls-to-ditch-first-past-the-post

Which was my point.

Maybe they all missed it as they were focussed on the election, but they are not the PM and it is not their job to announce government decisions. I am not blaming him for EVERYTHING. I am blaming him for not announcing something that might well have caused him some problems electorally. It didn’t have to be a major announcement, but government briefings are sent out all the time. You seem to be morphing into Weston.

The Fourth Reich Nigel and the Blackshirts Unfortunately the most appropriate one has already been used - The Flying C**ts of Chaos

Meanwhile… https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cl4y1pjk2dzo.amp

Perhaps they will now start to campaign for another EU referendum? 🤔

I was reading elsewhere about how, when Brits move abroad, they are not immigrants but Ex-Pats.

Why not? 21 of the 28 countries in Western Europe employ some kind of PR system. Do we know better than the likes of Austria, Belgium, Cyprus, Denmark, Finland, Germany, Greece, Ireland, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Spain, Sweden & Switzerland? I recall Dr David Owen saying many years ago that if you have a particularly good Chancellor but they are a member of an opposition party, why would you not want to use their knowledge? Starmer has already said that he doesn’t care where the good ideas come from, he isn’t going to partisan when it comes to rebuilding Britain. We lurch from one ideology to another. Surely it is better to do what is right for the country at the time and the future rather than to plough on with political dogma, which is often out of date or at odds with what the particular issue needs at that time. If the will of the people is spread across three or four main parties, why shouldn’t those voices be heard properly rather than bulldozed over? You can still have a ruling party that calls the shots on final decisions, but wouldn’t it have been so much better for the UK if the Tory government had more accountability when Liz Truss did her best to bankrupt the country? Would we have gone to war in Iraq under a PR system? A more in depth look at PR systems - https://fairvote.org/archives/proportional-representation-voting-systems/

A bit different to the government making an announcement though.

It all depends on your definition of Socialism.

I thought it was more about “Getting Brexit Done?”

Did he announce it then? I must have missed that.

Good old Rupert! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgr5qvpy2djo.amp

There is nothing depressing about keeping the far right out of power, unless you think that fascism is all fine and dandy.