OldNick

I think it would have been 1 up, but I also recall that occasion. Like DMG we must be fair and accpet they are only lads and Lallana scored the crucial goal at WBA last season that to a degree made life easier last day.

That is right UMP. As you know I can't defend it if he is picking the side but if you read Giveitto ROn his bit seems more plausible to me, and that would explain a lot in my mind as I was incredulous to the first scratchy bit of info I got.

It cant be nice for a 78 year old to have a couple of people phone up and jibe him that they had sha### his granddaughter. He is the innocent , she will go on and make lots of money and they will have another thing to laugh about. I would like someone to ring Ross and leave a lewd comment about sh####g his wife and he wouldnt have such a grin. Yes it has been blown out of proprtion and Max Clifford is in the background, what a surprise.

you can in circles for all I care I cannot or will not give any info more on this.

If you like to class me as an uber fan thats fine. I go to games yes that makes me more uber than you, I pay to go to games, that makes me more uber than you, I defend the club against subversives like you, yes i am an uber fan. I dont disrespect our away fans like you, that doesnt make me an uber fan, i dont think my opinions are sounder than yours , that doesnt make me an uber fan, I can see we are in the mire financiall y and on the pitch, that doesnt make me an uber fan. I stood/sat in the ground last night with 14k plus of decent people who were behind the team they support, they all care and worry about our future but i tell you what they werent booing or moaning but got behind the team as they know it is at times like now they are needed. At times some of the songs that aree sung I dont agree with but those lads keep singing and keep the players heads up. What do fans like you do, get on your computer and moan and criticise and be subversive whilst pretending you care.

Im not prepared to answer that.

I understand your point but I have to hold my hand up and say i thought Shearer was overrated and we had done well to get get 3m for him. He also wasnt good at 1 on 1's at that time but he raced away.Add to his stats the pens he has got us (Not that helped much) and he is a prospect. When he learns to shoot from distance he will start to learn quickly and that part of his game will improve. Keep him and it keeps a large section of the fans happy, the last thing we need is the club selling him and the fans getting on the backs of the club. ps at present I think he would only command sub 1.5m

PS you by saying that DMG was saying these things to cosy up that he was lying or making it up or following orders. He was interviewed and asked the question. He seemed genuine in his reply and said what I took as a none sinister event. It is typical of the club and its supporters that many instantly think the worst. That is why I dont think the club will ever truly heal.

do you think this is Watergate and so by chipping away you will get to my sources. Just take it as it is I will not embellish anymore.

Spurs wont buy him they have Modric. He will become a good player for us and then sadly will move on.

I managed to get under your ribs, that made the day even better. Your achilles heel is and always will be your postion not to bother to go to matches even when you were here ( 2 IP addresses!! I dont understand what they are but if you have 2 addresses you may have 2 user names then Corp Ho would never surprise me being your other one) You wish for us to play all the star names (wouldnt we all) but at the same time criticise whoever for not wanting to pay them to do so, at the same time not yourself putting into the pot. If you cant see the nonsense in that then I can see why we often clash. You are not bright enough to see Iam a supporter who defends the club against unfair abuse and understand that subversives like yourself add nothing to the clubs health but are just there to erode away at the clubs fibre. Yes RL has done some dire things but also some good. I can sift through the 2 things and also see what bad was done when you and others followed blindly into the arms of the Wilde bunch and took up the banner and abused others who were warning of the perils of doing so. (I do not mean myself but good posters like Frank's cousin) Rudi seems to be your most recent love, Rasiak and Saga have been shunned while you pander to Rudi. As i said Rudi was OK last night and he helped the side look more balanced, he also nearly cost us the game and for his wage did not stand above James who is on a fraction of his wages, wheras Euell did look worth his salary.You brought Rudi s name onto other threads not me by the way. i of course countered your posts. As you have not told us the Alpine plan of how to cut costs whilst playing the star players and keeping NP on then until I get persuaded by that bit of brilliance i will support the clubs efforts to keep us from administration.When the accounts come out then we may get a better picture of how things are and if we can afford to pay the appearance monies etc. Then if we are in the land of milk and hiney tyou will be able to tell me I am rong, but wauit until then.

Not all are on high appearance money, that is where the conflict is

Well thats risky not having any subs but you are a football guru

I see what you are saying but why do you question DMG's integrity.You are saying he's lying that is not fair unless you have other information. We moan if the players/club say nothing and then rubbish the club when they do.

Ron stated that he heard that RL does indeed send down a squadlist for Jan to pick from. The list contains the players we can afford as a club to turn out on any one given match. As it seems the clubs breakeven figure is 17k and we are now getting 14k the chairman (whatever hes called) draws up a list that would give jan choice but also one the club can afford ie after appearance money and add ons. RL responsibility is of course to manage the clubs finances for its shareholders (many are fans unlike in most other industries) and also has to answert to the bank as they will only push the clubs debt so far.If he shows he is trying to be responsible they will support us, if all of a sudden he says 'oh f### it' and plays all the high earners they might think we are being reckless. Now I understand many will not accept my way of seeing it but it is opinion.

I vote for Scooby and Daren Wheeler. Both in their own ways would provide amusing, insighted, and reactionary pieces that would get the forum moving with heated and thoughtful replies. ps Sundance I think you are your own worst enemy at itmes. You can be very constructive buit then go over the top and that makes your thoughtprovoking posts worthless. Just my opinion, but Daren does not deserve the unfair stick or abuse.

Yep but if you read the pre match predictions the result was far better than the majority of fans thought we'd get

I agree but do we build the team around him at present? Because that is what we have to do if he is a must play in the hole role. In a perverse way him noit be blindingly good every game makes it more likely he will stay as clubs may see him as a risk.He would not get into any PL side in that position at present and so why would he go? He knows he can develop here and he should learn other roles. I still stand by my observation that he needs to work on his shooting skills.

I think what you say may be correct in respect that i doubt RL would ask permissin to talk to the players. It is what he says is more pertinent. I know he used to say a few words when WGS was manager and so why not now?

That is natural, if you are suspisious of somebody anything may seem possible. I think Ro's info is the more likely and adds up, but it may be because i want it to.

StM, whilst I agree with some of what you say I suggest you and about 20 others go onto the predictions thread and read what you all thought the result would be. For then to come on and criticise after what would be seemed as a far better result than you expected seems churlish to me.

Slick if you want to believe it then you will start to see it being true. I keep calling RL the chairman, but come to think of it Im not sure he is is he?

If you think the way RL is doing things is not a risk I wouldnt want to go into business with you.

What I was saying is that if you jump on the fact because i say that RL has input into team selection and take that as read then you should accept the other pieces are also correct.Not to just take the bits out that suit your predudice.

Stanley I think you will find that Giveitto Ron qualified the piece. I would not accept RL picking the team and it something I put in my PM to UMP. I suspect Ron's version seem more credible as he sends down a list of players the club can afford to choose from.