surrey1saint Posted 11 July, 2009 Share Posted 11 July, 2009 (edited) Moving on from 'off topic ' comments on the 'corners' thread.: We really have to work at this as last season we were so poor. We need a top coach to sort this out as a prioity. Discuss... Edited 11 July, 2009 by surrey1saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 11 July, 2009 Share Posted 11 July, 2009 I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 11 July, 2009 Share Posted 11 July, 2009 Yup, me too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 11 July, 2009 Share Posted 11 July, 2009 A most apposite question, Sir. It is my considered opinion that one needs to try to find a method of transporting the 'football' from the 'corner D' or 'point of origin' to a geographical grid reference and level above Ordance Datum where it will initiate physical contact with another member of our team, in order that a 'goal-scoring chance' may in some way be facilitated. I suggest the 'foot' is used in a scientific action known as 'kicking' the football. I know these views are somewhat extreme but I am not afraid to confront such thorny philosophical issues in order to further intellectual debate as initiated by the good Dr Surrey1Saint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintalan Posted 11 July, 2009 Share Posted 11 July, 2009 ...and could we have someone coming in on the far post, as we always overcross! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stax Posted 11 July, 2009 Share Posted 11 July, 2009 Agreed we didnt score enough from corners that will have to be sorted for league 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 11 July, 2009 Share Posted 11 July, 2009 Agreed we didnt score enough from corners that will have to be sorted for league 1 Interestingly, those players with clever ball skills are always capable of doing the unexpected and I can recall (at least) one occasion when Terry Paine scored DIRECT from a corner.....only to have it credited as an own goal by a defender on the line, because (said the ref. later).. that it wasn't possible to score direct from a corner ! (Obviously it wasn't in the FA rule book). In later years, similar things happened to MLT on a couple of occasions and Jason Dodd had a very nice effort refused (went down as O.G.) in a fixture v. Pompey some years ago. There are players with good skills who can move the ball in the air, but they rarely seem to be used for kicks. Interestingly, another ex-saint Rory Delap is now the scourge of the Premiership with his long throws, whereas he was hounded (by certain Saints fans) for being useless at it - when in fact the problem seems to have been that we didn't have anyone on the receiving end who was capable of finishing properly. At the highest level, games are won on set-pieces, corners and penalties. Many of the great goals scored are nothing to do with skill but purely a reflex action that pays off. Those that miss ..end up in Row Q. are are forgotten. I first saw (so-called) Brazilian " banana kicks " in the 1966 World Cup, and I still think they are as fascinating as ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 11 July, 2009 Share Posted 11 July, 2009 Winning games is determined by scoring more goals than the opposition. Corners and set pieces provide an excellent opportunity to score goals, and to practise goal scoring opportunities in training. I think scoring more goals from corners and set pieces is an excellent idea - I'm very suprised no on else has thought of it. As an aside can we practise passing to team mates as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 11 July, 2009 Share Posted 11 July, 2009 Winning games is determined by scoring more goals than the opposition. Corners and set pieces provide an excellent opportunity to score goals, and to practise goal scoring opportunities in training. I think scoring more goals from corners and set pieces is an excellent idea - I'm very suprised no on else has thought of it. As an aside can we practise passing to team mates as well? Steady now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 11 July, 2009 Share Posted 11 July, 2009 Who took the blooooody corners away...We have never been the same since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthieu Posted 11 July, 2009 Share Posted 11 July, 2009 ...and could we have someone coming in on the far post, as we always overcross! 90/100 times we do, 9/100 it's along the ground to the first man and the other 1/100 time, it's on the head of chris perry or alex pearce to head it in and shout "nogging" whilst headign it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasiak-9- Posted 11 July, 2009 Share Posted 11 July, 2009 ...and could we have someone coming in on the far post, as we always overcross! god i know! does my head in! I mean it really is simple **** One guy on the front post to flick it on if the cross is underhit and another past the far post to head it back into the mix if its overhit - yet we never had either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macthesaint Posted 11 July, 2009 Share Posted 11 July, 2009 Moving on from 'off topic ' comments on the 'corners' thread.: We really have to work at this as last season we were so poor. We need a top coach to sort this out as a prioity. Discuss... Mark Dennis was speaking about this very thing on Talksport earlier. He said "set pieces are key in League 1,along with a big and busy centre forward". We need to do much better on set pieces at both ends of the pitch. It has been that way for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulwantsapint Posted 11 July, 2009 Share Posted 11 July, 2009 AS ML is German will pens improve? As Germany always score from 12 yards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheff Saint Posted 11 July, 2009 Share Posted 11 July, 2009 We've been rubbish since Tiss retired. In those halceon days Hall, Monkou, Richards...they all used to get a fair few goals a season from corners. Not got many in recent years. A successful team at any level makes the most of the basics. Set pieces should work well. You can stand on the trianing ground all day until you get them right. If we can crack this (defending them as well) it puts much less pressure on the team in general. And, can we please, please, please, please, please leave a man on the half way line when we're defending a corner!!!! 21 years since my first game and whoever has been manager (and we've had 565 of them since then) we seem to have a default function to put all 11 back in out penalty area. Why?!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHsaintsfan Posted 11 July, 2009 Share Posted 11 July, 2009 Can the blame for our poor success rate at corners be put at the door of our goalkeepers? I will explain more ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 11 July, 2009 Share Posted 11 July, 2009 Not seen a decent corner kick from Saints since Jermaine Wright left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakovnetski Posted 11 July, 2009 Share Posted 11 July, 2009 Not seen a decent corner kick from Saints since Jermaine Wright left. Pity that was all Jasmine could do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHsaintsfan Posted 11 July, 2009 Share Posted 11 July, 2009 When we practice offensive corners against a defence who do we have in goal? Much as I rate Kelvin his ability to come for crosses is not his strongest point. Does this then mean that in practice our corners are effective closer to goal than when in a real match situation. More likely it is due to the lack of height thoroughout the team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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