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They are taking a long time deciding whether to charge him are they not?

 

Doesn't sound as cut and dry as some on here were suggesting, unless they are going for a more serious charge and need more proof or witnessess for the CPS.

 

I can't imagine to many rushing forward as witnesses, given Rickys current form :)

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Could it mean that whoever allegedly got punched/bottled etc has decided not to press charges?

 

We as a club could certainly afford to offer a settlement.

 

I see where you're coming from. Pity then, the ordinary man, in exactly the same situation as Barney may be in, would not have that sort of support. Or the likelihood of people on here willingly thinking of such a way out for him.

 

Stll, as they say, British Justice is the best that money can buy and , at times, needs to be seen to be believed.

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A lad I work with beat up three people at the works Christmas party, including an 18 year old from the Nat West Party in another part of the hotel. I think he'll get sacked, plus if charges are pressed reckon he'll be looking at a prison sentence.

 

I know this is going a bit off thread, but can he be sacked for fighting at a works do? Is it classed as works time?

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They are taking a long time deciding whether to charge him are they not?

No not particularly, It's not uncommon for an ABH/GBH job to take 6 months, particularly if it's a dust up (so you're looking at charging more than one person). It may well be something as simple as waiting to get digital CCTV downloaded or blood results back from the lab, both of which usually take upwards of 8 weeks.

 

Could it mean that whoever allegedly got punched/bottled etc has decided not to press charges?

It doesn't work that way. The Crown prosecutes people. The concept of 'pressing charges' doesn't exist. Whilst it's true that the cooperation of the 'victim' is important, it's not unusual to go forward anyway, particularly if there's a public interest to do so, there's a public order issue, or there are counter-allegations - all three of which probably apply in this instance.

 

We as a club could certainly afford to offer a settlement.

Er no, that would be extremely illegal.

 

A lad I work with beat up three people at the works Christmas party, including an 18 year old from the Nat West Party in another part of the hotel. I think he'll get sacked, plus if charges are pressed reckon he'll be looking at a prison sentence.

 

I know this is going a bit off thread, but can he be sacked for fighting at a works do? Is it classed as works time?

Of course he can. You can assault someone anywhere on anyone's time. Whether he's technically 'at work' or not is a moot issue, criminal behaviour suffices for gross misconduct. Look at it this way - if you employed people, would you want them committing criminal offences whilst 'off the clock'?

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A lad I work with beat up three people at the works Christmas party, including an 18 year old from the Nat West Party in another part of the hotel. I think he'll get sacked, plus if charges are pressed reckon he'll be looking at a prison sentence.

 

I know this is going a bit off thread, but can he be sacked for fighting at a works do? Is it classed as works time?

 

Yes, as it can be seen as bringing the company in disrepute.

 

I expect he has also lost the respect of a lot of the other orderlies as well. Did the night staff let you know about he little escapades over drug time ?

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I see where you're coming from. Pity then, the ordinary man, in exactly the same situation as Barney may be in, would not have that sort of support. Or the likelihood of people on here willingly thinking of such a way out for him.

 

Stll, as they say, British Justice is the best that money can buy and , at times, needs to be seen to be believed.

 

Spot on !

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The CPS can be notoriously slow to make decisions even though the evidence hasn't changed. Eight months just to decide what to do next is one experience I've had. At that time it had become an embarassment, and since they didn't want to air it in court they decided to NFA. It sometimes depends on illness, overwork, more serious cases etc. etc. Nothing either sinister or hopeful should be read into the delay.

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