Crouchie's Lawyer Posted 26 October, 2008 Share Posted 26 October, 2008 Ok, Im no internet whizz, however, I know there are a few out there on this forum who would be able to do this. Having read some of the suggestions on the thread about how to oust Lowe, the most sensible one IMO is that of pleading with Barclays, who in all fairness, are able to pull the strings at the moment. My idea is setting up a web petition directed to Barclays, stating that if Lowe remains in charge, we will vent our frustration by future boycotts of SMS. A serious reduction in attendances as someone pointed out, will only lead to administration, and with our reported unsecured £8m overdraft, Barclays will do everything within their power to ensure we do not go into administration, where by their money is likely to be lost. This should hopefully mean they will insist board level changes with Lowe and Wilde stepping down. I favour Salz to step in as Chairman. So, is there someone out there able to set up an online petition, for the removal of these two leaches. The petition would be FAO Barclays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 26 October, 2008 Share Posted 26 October, 2008 nice sentiment but lowe is here for the foreseeable future now, FACT and there is nothing we can do about it imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 26 October, 2008 Share Posted 26 October, 2008 Barclays can't insist on anything. They are not a shareholder and they have no board presence. I agree that there are ways of making Lowe's position untenable though. A mass show of disapproval by a large amount of individual shareholders would be a good one.... Saints Trust to lead this? Oh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladysaint Posted 26 October, 2008 Share Posted 26 October, 2008 What happened to the SOS committee that was set up previously, can this now be resurrected in some form to organise something and meet with the current board to vent our feelings. Also isnt it time Lowe said something to the fans he has been very low profile since his return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouchie's Lawyer Posted 26 October, 2008 Author Share Posted 26 October, 2008 nice sentiment but lowe is here for the foreseeable future now, FACT and there is nothing we can do about it imo Barclays can't insist on anything. They are not a shareholder and they have no board presence. I agree that there are ways of making Lowe's position untenable though. A mass show of disapproval by a large amount of individual shareholders would be a good one.... Saints Trust to lead this? Oh. No Barclays are not a shareholder, however, they do have the right to call in their £8m overdraft at any one time. And Lowe et al knows that should they decide to do this, there is no choice but to go into administration and therefore his 'investment' and 'egotistical power trip of playing with his toy' would end anyway. Better to lose only one of those (power trip) than both. Barclays can and will pull the strings if they feel their money is at serious risk. And by signing the petition, they will see how serious it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie24 Posted 26 October, 2008 Share Posted 26 October, 2008 What happened to the SOS committee that was set up previously, can this now be resurrected in some form to organise something and meet with the current board to vent our feelings. Also isnt it time Lowe said something to the fans he has been very low profile since his return. Low profile? One of the things people used to throw at him was that he was a media whore, football chairman should be seen and not heard etc. etc. Now, he is keeping his head down and concentrating on the running of the club he is berated for being low profile. When will people stop being so ridiculous when it comes to Lowe? I would love someone else to take over tomorrow, preferably someone super-duper rich. Until that happens, Lowe is what we have. Petitions, boycotts, protests and so on will have zero impact on his position at the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 26 October, 2008 Share Posted 26 October, 2008 Low profile? One of the things people used to throw at him was that he was a media whore, football chairman should be seen and not heard etc. etc. Now, he is keeping his head down and concentrating on the running of the club he is berated for being low profile. When will people stop being so ridiculous when it comes to Lowe? I would love someone else to take over tomorrow, preferably someone super-duper rich. Until that happens, Lowe is what we have. Petitions, boycotts, protests and so on will have zero impact on his position at the club.got to agree but it keeps them happy in their own minds. the fact is we have no cash and unless some one comes in ,we will still be in the same position even if lowe left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 26 October, 2008 Share Posted 26 October, 2008 What happened to the SOS committee that was set up previously, can this now be resurrected in some form to organise something and meet with the current board to vent our feelings. Also isnt it time Lowe said something to the fans he has been very low profile since his return. Sadly the SOS committee went back on their word prior to the meeting with Wilde. Before the meeting they said they would insist that the meeting would be minuted and reported back on TSF. When they got in the meeting Wilde insisted this didn't happen and the SOS delegates disregarded their commitment to fans. If they are prepared to flout a fundamental commitment at the drop of a hat they are not worthy of speaking for fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowballs2 Posted 26 October, 2008 Share Posted 26 October, 2008 What happened to the SOS committee that was set up previously, can this now be resurrected in some form to organise something and meet with the current board to vent our feelings. Also isnt it time Lowe said something to the fans he has been very low profile since his return. Not with the same members, it became a small clique of ITKers for a while. Many of us knew it was a doomed mission from the begining, being a self appointed group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowballs2 Posted 26 October, 2008 Share Posted 26 October, 2008 No Barclays are not a shareholder, however, they do have the right to call in their £8m overdraft at any one time. And Lowe et al knows that should they decide to do this, there is no choice but to go into administration and therefore his 'investment' and 'egotistical power trip of playing with his toy' would end anyway. Better to lose only one of those (power trip) than both. Barclays can and will pull the strings if they feel their money is at serious risk. And by signing the petition, they will see how serious it is. Perhaps a letter from small shareholders to Barclays pointing out the massive reduction in attendance since Lowe / Wilde returned might help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 26 October, 2008 Share Posted 26 October, 2008 Not with the same members, it became a small clique of ITKers for a while. Many of us knew it was a doomed mission from the begining, being a self appointed group. It wasn't a democratically formed group, but they never claimed it was. Many of us had misgivings, and said so prior to the meeting, and to this end the delegates gave assurances it would be minuted. They failed to honour their word and that is why it failed. Many of us felt that if it wasn't minuted Wilde would try to USE them. Wilde told Andrew Cowen that the delegates wanted him back as chairman which the delegates denied ever saying it. If the meeting had been minuted, as was agreed, would such a sitution have arisen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladysaint Posted 26 October, 2008 Share Posted 26 October, 2008 Cant we get a group of ex players i.e. Franny, MLT, Armstrong, Dennis along with a few supporters to head up a group to represent the fan base and meet with the current board/bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 26 October, 2008 Share Posted 26 October, 2008 Petitions, boycotts, protests and so on will have zero impact on his position at the club. Mr X: nice sentiment but lowe is here for the foreseeable future now, FACT and there is nothing we can do about it imo Both wrong. A mass boycott would see the board forced to resign after one or two matches. If you don't agree, then argue your point against it. It is the only weapon that we have at our disposal as fans, but it is also the most potent weapon of all. An empty ground is the same as an empty restaurant, an empty cinema, empty theatre, etc. No business can carry on with players wages, staff salaries, interest payments and other bills to pay when its income falls well short of what it needs to keep its head above water. It is the gun against their heads that tells them that unless they go quietly, we are prepared to make them go kicking and screaming. They are only both back here, Lowe and the Quisling, to protect their investments. By this action they will have the choice of allowing others to run the club on behalf of ALL shareholders, or their investment will be worthless anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwaySaint1 Posted 26 October, 2008 Share Posted 26 October, 2008 Who has the stadium mortgage this week? I know it has been re-arranged a few times since we took it out. I bet a bwp hatrick that the company holding the deeds has a conection with the Lowe family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowballs2 Posted 26 October, 2008 Share Posted 26 October, 2008 It wasn't a democratically formed group, but they never claimed it was. Many of us had misgivings, and said so prior to the meeting, and to this end the delegates gave assurances it would be minuted. They failed to honour their word and that is why it failed. Many of us felt that if it wasn't minuted Wilde would try to USE them. Wilde told Andrew Cowen that the delegates wanted him back as chairman which the delegates denied ever saying it. If the meeting had been minuted, as was agreed, would such a sitution have arisen? I know I was a very vociferous person against it at the time, and got a lot of agro from some on here for saying it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 26 October, 2008 Share Posted 26 October, 2008 Both wrong. A mass boycott would see the board forced to resign after one or two matches. Yes maybe but in reality there is as much chance of a mass boycott as lowe announcing he is not fit to run the club and donating 10m to help our plight, never gonna happen in significant enough numbers, it would take virtually an empty stadium for them to take any notice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 26 October, 2008 Share Posted 26 October, 2008 Yes maybe but in reality there is as much chance of a mass boycott as lowe announcing he is not fit to run the club and donating 10m to help our plight, never gonna happen in significant enough numbers, it would take virtually an empty stadium for them to take any notice I'd call the %age drop in attendance between last season and this a mass boycott. Crowds of around 14,000 are not going to sustain the club for long and Lowe knows it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted 26 October, 2008 Share Posted 26 October, 2008 Both wrong. A mass boycott would see the board forced to resign after one or two matches. Not really, who would take over? Other shareholders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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