L1Minus10 Posted 15 November, 2008 Share Posted 15 November, 2008 Mancienne ... the one with the dreadlocks who cleared up everything today.... yep, just got called up by England... thought he looked good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 15 November, 2008 Share Posted 15 November, 2008 On loan from Chelsea i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Posted 16 November, 2008 Share Posted 16 November, 2008 I thought he was superb today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathan Posted 16 November, 2008 Share Posted 16 November, 2008 Shows how people can view a game differently. I thought McGoldrick beat him every time in the air, and he always seemed to be reacting to the game rather than anticipating things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 16 November, 2008 Share Posted 16 November, 2008 I thought he was pants for the under 21s, his mistake gave Wales a goal in the match in Cardiff and he was continually being wrong footed. Amazing what being on Chelsea's books can do for your international chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 16 November, 2008 Share Posted 16 November, 2008 Amazing what being on Chelsea's books can do for your international chances. So why is he selected and not Cork? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints67 Posted 16 November, 2008 Share Posted 16 November, 2008 So why is he selected and not Cork? Wolves are top of the CCC at the moment and therefore he must be doing something right. Personally I agree with an earlier poster as he looked ropey against Wales. However I'm not sure if he was the regular CB in all the other England U21 games where England only conceded one goal (IIRC). If he was then he's there on merit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintrich Posted 16 November, 2008 Share Posted 16 November, 2008 Mancienne is quality. There are plenty of other defenders Capello could have called up... players like Mathew Upson, Anton Ferdinand etc, but lets be honest... they are never going to be England regulars and aren't international quality. I think Capello has made a smart move in calling up Mancienne, as he is young and has bags of potential (he's not on Chelsea's books for nothing). Giving him the experience of being in the squad will only be good for his future and I guarantee that if England nurture and give him chances here and there over the next two years, he'll be better than really average defenders like Anton Ferdinand, Mathew Upson etc. Too many times in the past we've opted for including players in the squad that will never have a chance of being an England XI regular, so let's see if we can develop someone like Mancienne in starting XI player (in a few years) rather than not having him and selecting average defenders like Upson/Ferdinand (sorry to keep using the same example, but It fits well IMO) So in short, well done Capello for having the balls to call up Mancienne, instead of an average alternative who will bench warm (I know Mancienne will most likely sit on the bench, but the experience will be more beneficial to him, than say Upson). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 17 November, 2008 Share Posted 17 November, 2008 I too thought he looked good. In fact he stood out against us, but even so, on that performance I wouldn't have rated him much higher than "he'll play in the premiership one day". K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint In Exile Posted 17 November, 2008 Share Posted 17 November, 2008 Wolves are top of the CCC at the moment and therefore he must be doing something right. Personally I agree with an earlier poster as he looked ropey against Wales. However I'm not sure if he was the regular CB in all the other England U21 games where England only conceded one goal (IIRC). If he was then he's there on merit. Saturday was only his third game for Wolves though!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintrich Posted 17 November, 2008 Share Posted 17 November, 2008 Saturday was only his third game for Wolves though!! He's played the last two seasons on loan at QPR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint In Exile Posted 17 November, 2008 Share Posted 17 November, 2008 He's played the last two seasons on loan at QPR. Indeed he did, however I was referring to the suggestion that as Wolves are top of the CCC he must be doing something right. Not sure that his three games for them is wholely the reason they are top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 17 November, 2008 Share Posted 17 November, 2008 I don't really understand how this is Saints related, other than "he played against us". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints67 Posted 17 November, 2008 Share Posted 17 November, 2008 i don't really understand how this is saints related, other than "he played against us". hcdajfu? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 17 November, 2008 Share Posted 17 November, 2008 Alex Pearce is better than him IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new_zealand_saint Posted 18 November, 2008 Share Posted 18 November, 2008 Alex Pearce is better than him IMO he's also scottish, which means he won't be able to be called up to the england team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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