lordswoodsaints Posted 6 December, 2008 Share Posted 6 December, 2008 it seems that we should have won that game by 3 maybe 4,so why didnt we? i think that for some unknown reason the buildup to an attack is over engineered by the players,i cant work out if they are scared to shoot and pass the ball to somebody else,if they are looking to always score a spectacular goal with great buildup play or they run out of ideas in front of goal and forget about shooting? we did play some nice neat stuff today but somebody has to take the game by the balls in front of goal and bang a few in.we should be turning teams inside out and punishing them for being crap,but instead the opposing teams punish us for dithering in front of goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 6 December, 2008 Share Posted 6 December, 2008 it seems that we should have won that game by 3 maybe 4,so why didnt we? i think that for some unknown reason the buildup to an attack is over engineered by the players,i cant work out if they are scared to shoot and pass the ball to somebody else,if they are looking to always score a spectacular goal with great buildup play or they run out of ideas in front of goal and forget about shooting? we did play some nice neat stuff today but somebody has to take the game by the balls in front of goal and bang a few in.we should be turning teams inside out and punishing them for being crap,but instead the opposing teams punish us for dithering in front of goal. never normally agree with most of your posts regarding lowe BUT you summed up our HOME problems exactly, i think that one of the problems is that when we get it wide it is invariably with a player who should be in the middle and so the cross is out so we work it back across the midfield . Once the opposition realise we do not hurt them , they take the game over and we are forced to hang on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefoggy Posted 6 December, 2008 Share Posted 6 December, 2008 we are clueless.....we have no plan B and the opposition managers always suss us out. JP & RL OUT NOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 6 December, 2008 Share Posted 6 December, 2008 It's easy to defend a cross when it comes from deep. It is much harder to defend if it comes in from the bye-line. This is a problem we have, beating the man down the line and getting decent balls into the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 6 December, 2008 Share Posted 6 December, 2008 it seems that we should have won that game by 3 maybe 4,so why didnt we? i think that for some unknown reason the buildup to an attack is over engineered by the players,i cant work out if they are scared to shoot and pass the ball to somebody else,if they are looking to always score a spectacular goal with great buildup play or they run out of ideas in front of goal and forget about shooting? we did play some nice neat stuff today but somebody has to take the game by the balls in front of goal and bang a few in.we should be turning teams inside out and punishing them for being crap,but instead the opposing teams punish us for dithering in front of goal. All of that combined with a clueless coach who has absolutely no idea how to change things when his one and only plan is failing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 6 December, 2008 Share Posted 6 December, 2008 It's easy to defend a cross when it comes from deep. It is much harder to defend if it comes in from the bye-line. This is a problem we have, beating the man down the line and getting decent balls into the box. problem is the guy in position to cross is the one who also has to be in box because system does not encourage fullbacks to overlap because BWP and Lallana hug touch line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 6 December, 2008 Share Posted 6 December, 2008 I posted this on another thread, I think it pretty much shows why we aren't scoring... toothless strikers. We've scored 18 CCC goals this season. If ________ had taken all of those shots in _______ he'd have scored ________ goals. Saga - 06/07 -90 Best - 06/07 - 68 John - 07/08 - 66 Jones - 06/07 -50 Madsen - 05/06 - 49 Rasiak - 06/07 - 48 Fuller - 05/06 - 42 BWP - 06/07 - 41 Saga - 07/08 - 39 Rasiak - 07/08 - 30 Pahars - 05/06 - 27 BWP - 07/08 - 26 Ormerod - 05/06 - 22 Robertson - 08/09 - 25 DMG - 08/09 - 22 BWP - 08/09 - 20 Lallana - 08/09 - 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumstead_Saint Posted 6 December, 2008 Share Posted 6 December, 2008 It's easy to defend a cross when it comes from deep. It is much harder to defend if it comes in from the bye-line. This is a problem we have, beating the man down the line and getting decent balls into the box. Something Lee Holmes was pretty good at. Let's hope he is back soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted 6 December, 2008 Share Posted 6 December, 2008 It's easy to defend a cross when it comes from deep. It is much harder to defend if it comes in from the bye-line. This is a problem we have, beating the man down the line and getting decent balls into the box. We need a young Terry Paine:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 6 December, 2008 Share Posted 6 December, 2008 Something Lee Holmes was pretty good at. Let's hope he is back soon. Saw him after the game tonight, he said he was ok and back in training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelkel31 Posted 6 December, 2008 Share Posted 6 December, 2008 i think this is down to the way the players are taught to play the game. the ethos is to pass and move, keep the ball moving which to be honest they do very well most of the time. the biggest problem is our strikers, it there movement that should change the approach from pass and move to a player taking it upon himself to play that defense splitting pass. there no point in that pass being made if the striker is not already in motion and expecting the ball. the commentary today complained bout the moves involving 5 - 6 intricate passes around the outside of the box without any penetration and id add to that the players turn away from goal too much, but if nobody is showing the run into the box, splitting the defenders then how can we play the ball into dangerous areas. this part of the game requires experience or a player with a top class football brain(which you are unlikely to see at this level). jans biggest problem is he doesnt coach during the game, which is when you actually have a chance to Analise the opponents and exploit there weaknesses, and something he personally needs to change. as im making my personal critic on the style of play can someone tell me when we are controlling the ball on the wide edge of the opposing area when cant the fall back push up the field so that hes in a position to both attack the far post and get back if the move breaks down, we would be just outside the promotion places if we attacked the far post every time it goes there and no player of ours is around, which is a hell of alot(heres hoping the players and coaches really do read this forum) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowballs2 Posted 6 December, 2008 Share Posted 6 December, 2008 it seems that we should have won that game by 3 maybe 4,so why didnt we? i think that for some unknown reason the buildup to an attack is over engineered by the players,i cant work out if they are scared to shoot and pass the ball to somebody else,if they are looking to always score a spectacular goal with great buildup play or they run out of ideas in front of goal and forget about shooting? we did play some nice neat stuff today but somebody has to take the game by the balls in front of goal and bang a few in.we should be turning teams inside out and punishing them for being crap,but instead the opposing teams punish us for dithering in front of goal. Simple JP is waiting for Rupert to volunteer to play up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh Posted 6 December, 2008 Share Posted 6 December, 2008 As David Armstrong said on Radio Hampshire after the game, we just don't get to the byline and cross back into the box enough. We continually seem to be trying to walk the ball into the net. I also thought that Lallana seems to have caught the Fernandes "crop circle" disease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965onwards Posted 6 December, 2008 Share Posted 6 December, 2008 I have said this many times on this board,perhaps some peopl will finally understand. Football is a physical game,but like all sports the outcome is determined in players heads. To be successful requires that you make correct decisions.Skill levels are only a peripheral determinate in results of football matches.That is why our so-called "total football" is largely ineffective,pretty yes,effective no. Our players inexperience leads them to make too many incorrect decisions,as does their basic lack of football intelligence. When you add this to their poor reading of the game,especially defensively,and their truly woefull shooting technique,you get what we have got,a basic set of average players who might just have enough about them to keep us up this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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