Wotte de *%&*!

[Frank's cousin]

The mrs had me trawling shops this morning looking at new showers for the bathroom...joy of joys, and also forced me to listen to Radio 2 in the car. Luckily I managed to convince of the importance of getting some footie fix and was able to turn over to 5Live to listen to a bit of Ketterging town doing their bit.... It did bring back a few memories.

 

Back in April 2003, Villa Park....I can still see it all in slow motion, Mazza has broken forward and taken the ball on a one-two, cuts in a little but is deep towards the byline and dinks in a perfect little ball as the Brettmonster times his run perfectly and Saints go one up. The Roar, the joy as I tunred to the Mrs and we hugged, I turned around an hugged some strange ugly bloke in a saints shirt as we jumped up and down, and generally made embarrassing noise. It was a defining moment - It was going to be our day and for me the elation of our fans that day knowing we were going to Cardiff as we left the ground was deserved - because we were the the 'small' cub made good. We had shiney new stadium, a good manager and it seemed the good times were well and truely about to begin.

 

Most fan sites at the time focussed on dicussing the football, and despite a tiny few stuck in the Ragged Trousered Philantropist timewarp Lowe was afforded a gruding respect - Even during the Gray debacle, the shouts around SMS were not of 'Lowe Out' but of 'are you watching Rupert Lowe'... we wanted him to take action. I was proud of our club and proud of the fact we had done this without risky debt, living within our means, had a good academy set up - the future looked bright, the future looked red and white and Lowe DESERVED some credit for this and I was happy to give it to him as were many.

 

Last weekend saw fans fighting fans as we struggle to maintain our status in the second tier, the 1st team kids, lacking the experience to compete too often, despite their desire and obvious promise. HOw we got here is a minefield of negative variables, mistakes, rumour, gossip and speculation, and to be honest its been debated so many times and by all of us that we are probably all sick to the teeth of it. The FACT remains we are here and it looks bleak.

 

But hey, ever the optimist, I have defended the indefensible, stuck my neck out and tried to see the cons AND pros in the decision made given the perilous financial circumstances, I have called for open minds to give things a chance and to urge fans to at the very least appreciate that despite the concerns, there was logic in these decisions.... I have taken a lot of flak for it too, unjustly in my view, but I'm old and ugly enough not to give to much of a feck about that....

 

BUt then comes yesterday, did not leave work until about 7.30pm and have a 2 hour drive - 5Live on and the news...JP has resigned...feck me! I would like to go on record and say I feel sorry for him.. a decent intelligent guy who likes to play the game as it should - those early season games showed our kids looking good - the results must surely come... dignified yet out of his depth. So he fell on his sword (or Crouch paid him off - I can do conspiracy too...;-)).

 

OK, thank feck, Lowe about to finally do something positive... Wotte in charge for Tuesday and then Dowie or someone coming in to giveus the fight....Got home a bit just after nine, Sky sports news bar...Wotte named as successor.... Wotte de feck?

 

Mr Lowe

 

How on earth do you expect even the most mild mannered rational balanced fans who ahve tried to see positives in actions to provide some semblence of reality to understand the logic in that?

 

Surely, you must see that what we needed was someone like Dowie, experienced in this division and a low risk option that would have had the added benefit of if not unifying, at least rallying some more fans to the relegation scrap? Wotte de feck are you thinking?

 

Sure money is tight, but cant you see that not only have you simply shuffled the pack and simply increased the risk of relegation, but done absolutely nothing to inspire fans for a relegation fight.

 

There is only so much we can take. Despite the crap I get, I have always tried to present the pros in what many believe are your most bizzare and oft foolhardy decisions - why? Because there WERE some to many of them and I believe its only right that they got an airing so it was not about the anti's propoganda which often portrayed speculation and gossip as fact.

 

But I have drawn a blank on this one... I simply find nothing in this decision that under the present circumstances is logical or defensible. Thanks a lot. In the words of mr Lydon 'ever get the feeling you've been cheated' - well I and I would guess many of us 'balanced' fans do now.

 

As a fan, its my duty to hope beyond hope that somehow Mr Wotte manages to perform a miracle in the face of all logic, but the odds are so set against that, division 1 seems a cert... and thats from me, mr bloody optimistic... As a fan I hope you stick two fingures up to me come seasons end for ever doubting it was the right move... I realy do, for the good of the club, but I am resigned to league 1 right now and its ****ing me off...

 

I simply cant imagine why you did this...and can only conclude that its ineptitude.

Edited 24 January, 2009 by Frank's cousin

[trousers]

The mrs had me trawling shops this morning looking at new showers for the bathroom...joy of joys, and also forced me to listen to Radio 2 in the car. Luckily I managed to convince of the importance of getting some footie fix and was able to turn over to 5Live to listen to a bit of Ketterging town doing their bit.... It did bring back a few memories.

 

Back in April 2003, Villa Park....I can still see it all in slow motion, Mazza has broken forward and taken the ball on a one-two, cuts in a little but is deep towards the byline and dinks in a perfect little ball as the Brettmonster times his run perfectly and Saints go one up. The Roar, the joy as I tunred to the Mrs and we hugged, I turned around an hugged some strange ugly bloke in a saints shirt as we jumped up and down, and generally made embarrassing noise. It was a defining moment - It was going to be our day and for me the elation of our fans that day knowing we were going to Cardiff as we left the ground was deserved - because we were the the 'small' cub made good. We had shiney new stadium, a good manager and it seemed the good times were well and truely about to begin.

 

Most fan sites at the time focussed on dicussing the football, and despite a tiny few stuck in the Ragged Trousered Philantropist timewarp Lowe was afforded a gruding respect - Even during the Gray debacle, the shouts around SMS were not of 'Lowe Out' but of 'are you watching Rupert Lowe'... we wanted him to take action. I was proud of our club and proud of the fact we had done this without risky debt, living within our means, had a good academy set up - the future looked bright, the future looked red and white and Lowe DESERVED some credit for this and I was happy to give it to him as were many.

 

Last weekend saw fans fighting fans as we struggle to maintain our status in the second tier, the 1st team kids, lacking the experience to compete too often, despite their desire and obvious promise. HOw we got here is a minefield of negative variables, mistakes, rumour, gossip and speculation, and to be honest its been debated so many times and by all of us that we are probably all sick to the teeth of it. The FACT remains we are here and it looks bleak.

 

But hey, ever the optimist, I have defended the indefensible, stuck my neck out and tried to see the cons AND pros in the decision made given the perilous financial circumstances, I have called for open minds to give things a chance and to urge fans to at the very least appreciate that despite the concerns, there was logic in these decisions.... I have taken a lot of flak for it too, unjustly in my few, but I'm old and ugly enough not to give to much of a feck about that....

 

BUt then comes yesterday, did not leave work until about 7.30pm and have a 2 hour drive - 5Live on and the news...JP has resigned...feck me! I would like to go on record and say I feel sorry for him.. a decent intelligent guy who likes to play the game as it should - those early season games showed our kids looking good - the results must surely come... dignified yet out of his depth. So he fell on his sword (or Crouch paid him off - I can do conspiracy too...;-)).

 

OK, thank feck, Lowe about to finally do something positive... Wotte in charge for Tuesday and then Dowie or someone coming in to giveus the fight....Got home a bit just after nine, Sky sports news bar...Wotte named as successor.... Wotte de feck?

 

Mr Lowe

 

How on earth do you expect even the most mild mannered rational balanced fans who ahve tried to see positives in actions to provide some semblence of reality to understand the logic in that?

 

Surely, you must see that what we needed was someone like Dowie, experienced in this division and a low risk option that would have had the added benefit of if not unifying, at least rallying some more fans to the relegation scrap? Wotte de feck are you thinking?

 

Sure money is tight, but cant you see that not only have you simply shuffled the pack and simply increased the risk of relegation, but done absolutely nothing to inspire fans for a relegation fight.

 

There is only so much we can take. Despite the crap I get, I have always tried to present the pros in what many believe are your most bizzare and oft foolhardy decisions - why? Because there WERE some to many of them and I believe its only right that they got an airing so it was not about the anti's propoganda which often portrayed speculation and gossip as fact.

 

But I have drawn a blank on this one... I simply find nothing in this decision that under the present circumstances is logical or defensible. Thanks a lot. In the words of mr Lydon 'ever get the feeling you've been cheated' - well I and I would guess many of us 'balanced' fans do now.

 

As a fan, its my duty to hope beyond hope that somehow Mr Wotte manages to perform a miracle in the face of all logic, but the odds are so set against that, division 1 seems a cert... and thats from me, mr bloody optimistic... As a fan I hope you stick two fingures up to me come seasons end for ever doubting it was the right move... I realy do, for the good of the club, but I am resigned to league 1 right now and its ****ing me off...

 

I simply cant imagine why you did this...and can only conclude that its ineptitude.

 

Relax dear....it's only a temporary appointment

 

[alpine_saint]

Knew you'd eventually come to the same conclusion as the rest of us, FC..

[dubai_phil]

FC great sentiments

 

But I do think you should avoid spoiling your weekend by at least trying to believe what is actually stated on Pravda (oops sorry OS) first.

 

That way you can smirk at the irony of Dyer's goal like the rest of us and it won't hit so hard.

 

Also it may allow you share time with a better half and avoid the legal costs of a divorce for being grumpy all the time

 

:-)

[The Rover]

The mrs had me trawling shops this morning looking at new showers for the bathroom...joy of joys, and also forced me to listen to Radio 2 in the car. Luckily I managed to convince of the importance of getting some footie fix and was able to turn over to 5Live to listen to a bit of Ketterging town doing their bit.... It did bring back a few memories.

 

Back in April 2003, Villa Park....I can still see it all in slow motion, Mazza has broken forward and taken the ball on a one-two, cuts in a little but is deep towards the byline and dinks in a perfect little ball as the Brettmonster times his run perfectly and Saints go one up. The Roar, the joy as I tunred to the Mrs and we hugged, I turned around an hugged some strange ugly bloke in a saints shirt as we jumped up and down, and generally made embarrassing noise. It was a defining moment - It was going to be our day and for me the elation of our fans that day knowing we were going to Cardiff as we left the ground was deserved - because we were the the 'small' cub made good. We had shiney new stadium, a good manager and it seemed the good times were well and truely about to begin.

 

Most fan sites at the time focussed on dicussing the football, and despite a tiny few stuck in the Ragged Trousered Philantropist timewarp Lowe was afforded a gruding respect - Even during the Gray debacle, the shouts around SMS were not of 'Lowe Out' but of 'are you watching Rupert Lowe'... we wanted him to take action. I was proud of our club and proud of the fact we had done this without risky debt, living within our means, had a good academy set up - the future looked bright, the future looked red and white and Lowe DESERVED some credit for this and I was happy to give it to him as were many.

 

Last weekend saw fans fighting fans as we struggle to maintain our status in the second tier, the 1st team kids, lacking the experience to compete too often, despite their desire and obvious promise. HOw we got here is a minefield of negative variables, mistakes, rumour, gossip and speculation, and to be honest its been debated so many times and by all of us that we are probably all sick to the teeth of it. The FACT remains we are here and it looks bleak.

 

But hey, ever the optimist, I have defended the indefensible, stuck my neck out and tried to see the cons AND pros in the decision made given the perilous financial circumstances, I have called for open minds to give things a chance and to urge fans to at the very least appreciate that despite the concerns, there was logic in these decisions.... I have taken a lot of flak for it too, unjustly in my view, but I'm old and ugly enough not to give to much of a feck about that....

 

BUt then comes yesterday, did not leave work until about 7.30pm and have a 2 hour drive - 5Live on and the news...JP has resigned...feck me! I would like to go on record and say I feel sorry for him.. a decent intelligent guy who likes to play the game as it should - those early season games showed our kids looking good - the results must surely come... dignified yet out of his depth. So he fell on his sword (or Crouch paid him off - I can do conspiracy too...;-)).

 

OK, thank feck, Lowe about to finally do something positive... Wotte in charge for Tuesday and then Dowie or someone coming in to giveus the fight....Got home a bit just after nine, Sky sports news bar...Wotte named as successor.... Wotte de feck?

 

Mr Lowe

 

How on earth do you expect even the most mild mannered rational balanced fans who ahve tried to see positives in actions to provide some semblence of reality to understand the logic in that?

 

Surely, you must see that what we needed was someone like Dowie, experienced in this division and a low risk option that would have had the added benefit of if not unifying, at least rallying some more fans to the relegation scrap? Wotte de feck are you thinking?

 

Sure money is tight, but cant you see that not only have you simply shuffled the pack and simply increased the risk of relegation, but done absolutely nothing to inspire fans for a relegation fight.

 

There is only so much we can take. Despite the crap I get, I have always tried to present the pros in what many believe are your most bizzare and oft foolhardy decisions - why? Because there WERE some to many of them and I believe its only right that they got an airing so it was not about the anti's propoganda which often portrayed speculation and gossip as fact.

 

But I have drawn a blank on this one... I simply find nothing in this decision that under the present circumstances is logical or defensible. Thanks a lot. In the words of mr Lydon 'ever get the feeling you've been cheated' - well I and I would guess many of us 'balanced' fans do now.

 

As a fan, its my duty to hope beyond hope that somehow Mr Wotte manages to perform a miracle in the face of all logic, but the odds are so set against that, division 1 seems a cert... and thats from me, mr bloody optimistic... As a fan I hope you stick two fingures up to me come seasons end for ever doubting it was the right move... I realy do, for the good of the club, but I am resigned to league 1 right now and its ****ing me off...

 

I simply cant imagine why you did this...and can only conclude that its ineptitude.

 

Bloody hell FC. I waded through all that and I still don't know what you thought about Jonathan Ross' comeback.

 

Just think a week of his wages from the BBC (our licence money) and Saints would have no financial difficulties. The Rupert Lowe Show is what we need.

[Frank's cousin]

Bloody hell FC. I waded through all that and I still don't know what you thought about Jonathan Ross' comeback.

 

Just think a week of his wages from the BBC (our licence money) and Saints would have no financial difficulties. The Rupert Lowe Show is what we need.

 

LOL, cheers for lifting the gloom a little!

[Wes Tender]

Welcome to the dark side, Frank.

 

You're obviously a decent human being, always wishing to see the good side in everybody, whereas I'm too obviously a cynical old sod who sussed out Lowe, Askham, Richards and the other charlatans a decade ago because of the immorality of the reverse takeover. I suspected then that there would come a time when it would all go horribly wrong and fall apart. The Quisling Wilde had me fooled though. I totally misjudged him.

 

I'm pretty certain like you that there will not come a time whereby you or I have to apologise to Lowe for misjudging him over the appointment of Wotte. Like you, I believe that it will be just another mistake to place beside those of Poortvliet, Gray and Wigley. The stubborn sod never learns, does he, which is a major failing in a Chairman of a PLC.

[The Farmer]

I suspected then that there would come a time when it would all go horribly wrong and fall apart. The Quisling Wilde had me fooled though. I totally misjudged him.

 

Exactly WS, Ive been bleating on for an eternity that the post perverse reverse takeover set up left us with a load of bad apples as incumbants. The whole think stunk of a money making, fan milking exercise, and to be honest, I'm totally surprised its taken this long to fall apart.

 

Our unfledgeling support over the years doesn't deserve the treatment the self serving leeches running the club have heaped upon us. Seems the last few pro-lowes have turned now, how the feck can he stay? What tune is Misslebrook singing now that Lowe's methods have finally driven us into the abyss? Sad, sad times for all of us and all future Sotonians.

 

Just leave us be Askham and Lowe, we have all had enough.

[SP Saint]

...

Our unfledgeling support over the years doesn't deserve the treatment the self serving leeches running the club have heaped upon us.

 

More power to the little sparrows for their unfailing support.

 

Sorry TF, not taking the urine - but it's been a bad 24 hours and you made me larff.

[The Farmer]

More power to the little sparrows for their unfailing support.

 

Sorry TF, not taking the urine - but it's been a bad 24 hours and you made me larff.

 

My unfledgeling love of real ale of a Saturday teatime often leaves me typing like a tit!!

[Leslie Charteris]

Frank, you so often say what I am thinking - only better. Thank you!