The Spygate Saga

[Midfield_General]

3 hours ago, Sheaf Saint said:

I'd love to believe this, just like I really wanted to believe that they were keeping a dignified silence in the lead up to the hearing and had an ace up their sleeve to play. 

Sadly, as has been pointed out many times of the last few weeks, wherever SR are concerned you should always lean heavily towards incompetence as the explanation. Because it always turns out the be right one. 

Every. Single. Time.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

36 minutes ago, BarberSaint said:

There was no 'crime'. 

 

There was an alleged breach (admitted) of a thing that has no real weight in law directly: Uberrima Fides and breach of a specific article, the terms surrounding which had not been drafted anywhere near well enough for them to not be subject to serious scrutiny and certainly watering-down were they ever tested robustly.

I went to the pictures with Uberrima Fides once. The Firm, as that's the sort of thing she liked. It were all right.

[benjii]

CAS is an arbitral body, it's not a sovereign court. Any arbitration is only possible if the parties involve have signed a valid arbitration agreement. In this case, the EFL rules are the arbitration agreement and the arbitral panel was the band of eeejits cobbled together by the appointed resolution body. If the arbitration agreement says no recourse to CAS then it's binding.

However, an arbitration agreement must still comply with the law and cannot be used to create perverse legal consequences. So a court challenge is still possible.

I don't think we will do; but that's the framework.

Edited 5 hours ago by benjii

[OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint]

57 minutes ago, benjii said:

CAS is an arbitral body, it's not a sovereign court. Any arbitration is only possible if the parties involve have signed a valid arbitration agreement. In this case, the EFL rules are the arbitration agreement and the arbitral panel was the band of eeejits cobbled together by the appointed resolution body. If the arbitration agreement says no recourse to CAS then it's binding.

However, an arbitration agreement must still comply with the law and cannot be used to create perverse legal consequences. So a court challenge is still possible.

I don't think we will do; but that's the framework.

I'm hoping this isn't over. As time goes on, there will be a feeling of 'it's done, let's forget about it and move on' and as the events of the last couple of weeks become more distant, there's a likelihood this feeling will become more entrenched

Middlesbrough acted sub-judice. Their 'integrity' has to be questioned. Process wasn't followed and decisions were made by a kangeroo panel and board. There's plenty to investigate and a lot riding on it. So, I for one, want to see a court challenge.

[St Chalet]

The EFL should ask all teams, on the the threat of automatic relegation or expulsion should it be proved otherwise untrue, to sign an affadavit that they did not spy on opponents in season 2025/26.

Loads of this would have gone on, we just got caught.

 

[Harry_SFC]

Sorry if already posted but this is interesting 

https://www.insideworldfootball.com/2026/05/26/op-ed-sir-nicholas-mostyn-kc-soutampton-fc-admiral-byng-is-shot-again/

Edit - ignore, just seen it on the previous page

Edited 3 hours ago by Harry_SFC