Lewis Dobbin

[hypochondriac]

1 hour ago, saint-ross said:

That's saints fans for ya. We do this all the time, then moan when we get called out. 

It's bollocks and a popular myth. It makes people feel better about themselves to pretend there's loads of saints fans writing Dobbin off after one game.

[HKsaint]

No worry, he will start scoring for fun soon.

[saint-ross]

9 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

It's bollocks and a popular myth. It makes people feel better about themselves to pretend there's loads of saints fans writing Dobbin off after one game.

It's not bollocks. I've read plenty of negative comments across the various platforms. Not quite Larin levels just yet, maybe give it another game or two. 

[St Louis]

19 hours ago, Tommy Mulgrew said:

You really should not have used a highly selective quote from my earlier post to illustrate your anger, promoted by you in more than one post this week alone,  that others are judging new signings too early.  You quoted the first six words of one of my sentences, which continued as below.  In the context of the rest of my post, any sensible reader could discern that I was being positive for him to improve on the form of his first two properly competitive games for us and that I hoped he would do so.

This is a football forum and posters share their varied opinions.  Thankfully we do not all have the same beliefs and ways of expressing them.

 

Im sorry you took it personally, it wasnt meant that way, and not sure why you insinuated it was said with anger? I was as calm as could be in my thoughts and post. And I dont know what you mean by 'promoted by you in more than one post week alone' as I havent made any other posts?
I was just browsing through the comments about our new signing and was surprised how many people were 'judging' him. I never said anybody had written him off. People saying he looks an 'average Championship player at best', 'really not impressed by him', 'Temu Redmond', 'been woeful so far', 'weird signing', etc. My post was just highlighting how quickly people are able to make those judgements already.
I love the forum because of it's melting pot of thoughts and beliefs, I dont think anyone should hold back on opinions, thats the point of a discussion forum and it would be pretty boring around here if they did. 
Apologies if you took it personally, lets mutually hope for a Dobbin brace this weekend!

Edited 7 hours ago by St Louis

[Lighthouse]

19 minutes ago, saint-ross said:

It's not bollocks. I've read plenty of negative comments across the various platforms. Not quite Larin levels just yet, maybe give it another game or two. 

There’re plenty of negative comments because in the two competitive games he’s played for us he has been poor and nobody is really sure if he fits into our team. Nobody is writing him off, he may come good.

[saint-ross]

42 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

There’re plenty of negative comments because in the two competitive games he’s played for us he has been poor and nobody is really sure if he fits into our team. Nobody is writing him off, he may come good.

I mean, apart from the guys who have said "waste of fking money", "Dobbin was awful recruitment", "Don't like Dobbin, fast but so what" yeah, no ones written him off. That's just from this forum btw, twitter and had been even more rife tbf.

 

[Farmer Saint]

7 minutes ago, saint-ross said:

I mean, apart from the guys who have said "waste of fking money", "Dobbin was awful recruitment", "Don't like Dobbin, fast but so what" yeah, no ones written him off. That's just from this forum btw, twitter and had been even more rife tbf.

 

They're the same who wrote off Mane straight away. And Pelle. And a miriad of other players over the years.

Edited 6 hours ago by Farmer Saint

[hypochondriac]

1 hour ago, saint-ross said:

It's not bollocks. I've read plenty of negative comments across the various platforms. Not quite Larin levels just yet, maybe give it another game or two. 

"we do this all the time." No we don't. Cretins on social media like Facebook or Twitter might post some stupid comments but that's no different from every other club in the country.

[suewhistle]

I haven't had the chance to see him play (other than our goal highlights) so I'll not venture an opinion yet, so let's hope Saturday gives us a better idea.

Hypochondriac may be right in his opinion: "let's hope he comes good but looks very much like an average championship player to me so far.", but the "so far" is doing a lot of work in letting a negative opinion through whilst claiming not to be judgemental early on.

 

 

[Tommy Mulgrew]

4 hours ago, St Louis said:

lets mutually hope for a Dobbin brace this weekend!

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[hypochondriac]

55 minutes ago, suewhistle said:

I haven't had the chance to see him play (other than our goal highlights) so I'll not venture an opinion yet, so let's hope Saturday gives us a better idea.

Hypochondriac may be right in his opinion: "let's hope he comes good but looks very much like an average championship player to me so far.", but the "so far" is doing a lot of work in letting a negative opinion through whilst claiming not to be judgemental early on.

 

 

I never once claimed not to be judgemental. We make judgements all the time. It's also not a negative opinion, it's a truthful opinion of his first two performances. In an earlier post I described how mane had some thoroughly underwhelming early performances. That he subsequently showed himself to be excellent doesn't make those early performances any better or less poor. What I said was that it's a nonsense to say he has been written off. He's been played not in his strongest position and has played a couple of games. It hasn't looked great so far but it's early days and Dobbin has shown he can score and assist in this league when played the right way.

Edited 3 hours ago by hypochondriac